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Shouldn't Galvatron and Megatron be merged into one article since it refers to the same character albeit that there was an evolution of the character that occurred, wouldn't it be better to have one article explaining the origins of the character and it's evolution into it's current character form. In my personal opinion this would also save space on Wikipedia if this article were merged into one. Misterrick 00:55, 17 October 2004 (UTC)

I kind of think they each deserve their own page. As depicted in the cartoon, they behave in very different ways. Megatron is cunning and constantly scheming to steal Earth’s resources, while Galvatron is nuts and constantly abusing his own troops. Also, in the G1 Marvel comics, Galvatron is plucked from an alternate future by Unicron, and there is a short under developed plot arc where Megatron and Galvatron interact with each other. That is just my opinion though, if done properly the two articles could be merged. --Plicease 09:18, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

As a result of the reconstruction process, Unicron gained the ability to assert control over Galvatron at considerable range through the apparent infliction of physical and psychological pain, inasmuch as a synthetic life form can feel pain.

I don't agree with this sentence because

  1. Unicron demonstrates the ability to inflict pain on Megatron before recreating him as Galvatron.
  2. the statement "inasmuch as a synthetic life form can feel pain" is unnecessary as one of the primary assertions in the Transformers Universe is that Transformers can feel pain.

Unless anyone objects I would like to remove the statement, or rewrite it stating that Unicron was able to inflict pain on Megs/Galvatron --Plicease 09:27, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Triple Change

Hi there. I was reading the Space Pirates tpb last night and noticed for the first time a completely different alternate mode of Galvatron. Before his meeting with Cyclonus and Scourge Galvatron hides from them by transforming into a small gun and having a human carry it, just like Megatron used to. As Galvatron's alternate mode is traditionally a cannon platform in the comics, does this qualify Galvatron 1 as a triple-changer? SMegatron 12:44, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I guess it does, sort of. The toy had three modes, robot, gun platform and hand gun, but the hand gun mode was very rarely used in the comic. This is a great example of Simon Furman being creative with familiar characters, which was always one of his strengths (The same story puts Springer's leaping ability to rare use as well). But I wouldn't call him a triple-changer, as he wasn't released as part of that range. There are other TF's with three modes not counted as triple changers as well (Metroplex and Trypticon spring to mind). I think the category should only refer to the characters actually branded as triple changers on their toy release.Coyote-37 13:14, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Galvatron is one of the 3 form characters who isn't an official "triple-changer" toy line member. I think he is actually refered to as a triple-changer in his Dreamwave comics biography, so are several others - like the Headmaster Horricons (robot, animal, jet triple-changers). talk:mathewignash


[edit] Previous Identity=

Although it was said the only autobot to have knowledge of Megatron = Galvatron, wouldn't Rodimus Have this knowledge as well.

Galvatron: "First Prime, then Ultra Magnus, and now YOU, if you autobots didn't die so easily I might finally have a sense of satisfaction now."

A lot of autobots died here, and the two listed before Hot Rod have the common trait of being finished by the same person although different versions. Thanks for clearing that up guys.SMegatron 09:45, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Section on knowledge of previous identity deleted on grounds of OR and notability. This article is way too long as is and this seemed as good a place as any to start trimming the dross. 81.154.116.164 (talk) 23:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Size

I notice the article is getting quite long - 36 kilobytes. Should the article be split into several smaller articles on each universe's Galvatron? I'm not sure the other versions are different enough to warrant an article each, but the article looks to be getting a bit unweildy. SMegatron 19:59, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd agree, as the current Megatron article is the same. We could have 4 articles where one is now. G1/G2 Galvatron, Beast Wars Neo Galvatron, RiD Galvatron and the "Unicron Trilogy" Galvatron. In fact the RiD Galvatron could be merged with RiD Megatron, and same with the Unicron trilogy one. Same guys after all. User talk:mathewignash
No, I don't really think so. As you say, the other versions of Galvatron really aren't large enough or important enough to warrant their own articles. Although it may be on the cusp of unwieldly, the article is, after all, not actually going to get any larger right now, since another Galvatron does not seem to be likely in the immediately future, and there's really nothing of any sufficient size to be added to it as it is now. I just think splitting it up spoils it's... comprehensiveness. - Chris McFeely, May 28th 2006

Sounds good to me. SMegatron 13:13, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I think RiD Megatron and Galvatron could warrent one article for himself, not two seperate ones. He's one guy. Unicron trilogy Megatron/Galvatron should get one article for himself too, not two like he has now, since he's just supposed to be one guy who changed him name 5 times. G1 Megatron/Galvatron gets one article, Beast Wars Megatron gets one article for himself, and one article for Beast Wars Galvatron. That's a total of four articles for four unique characters. user:Mathewignash
While I can see the rationale behind RiD and UT Megs and Galvy having merged articles, the two G1 characters should most definitely remain separated. But, see, I'm of the belief that RiD and UT Megatron don't even NEED to have separate articles outside of the main Megatron article. BW/BM Megs is a hugely important and memorable character who did so much that he's easily justifiale in getting his own article, but the other two just... aren't, so much. Generally speaking, I'm not keen on putting so many separate articles like that on the regular Wikipedia. And yeah, I know other series and characters have it, but it all strays terribly into that subjective region of fancruft. There IS a Transformers Wiki out there where single-character-specific articles would be *much* more at home - on Wikipedia itself, I'm behind the notion comprehensiveness in a singular article. Hence - four Galvatrons, one article. - Chris McFeely, 28th May
I agree we should keep the number of articles dwn, but in a different way. RiD Megatron and Galvatron is ONE character, so one article, not two. UT Megatron and Galvatron is ONE guy so, he should have one article. We should have one article per guy instead of devoting parts of an article to the guy depending on their name change. The UT one is especially stupid, because he changed his name back and forth 3 times - TO read about one guy you have to switch between articles back and forth with each name change user:Mathewignash
Looking at the RiD and UT Megs articles, they actually already HAVE the details of their careers as Galvatron included in them. And that's right, they should - they are the same characters, just repainted a bit (where the G1 blokes were two independant individuals). No changes actually need to be made to their articles as they stand now to incorporate the information in this article - you don't need to flip back and forth between the articles. The only alteration that would be made is to this page, and that's just taking something away from it. I don't think there's anything wrong with this page singling out their time as Galvatron, it being the Galvatron article - the subsections have links to their main articles, so readers can get all the details if they want them with a single click. The way I see it, if they want to learn specifically about the characters' time as Galvatrons, then they come to the "Galvatron" article - that way, they don't have to search through a larger article. But if they want to learn about their full stories, as Megatron, then they go to that larger article, to the "Megatron" articles. I just really want to see this page remain the one, singular comprehensive Galvatron article - as it is unlikely to undergo any real change for the time being, I see no harm in leaving it as is. - Chris McFeely

Well, when you put it like that... SMegatron 09:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grand Galvatron

Heh, just saw the edit where someone thought this image was an animation error - sadly, no, it's not, it's what Galvatron actually intends to turn himself into by merging his body with Earth. - Chris McFeely 5th June, 2006

[edit] IDW

I added in the details of The Spotlights issue on Nightbeat, which according to the interview listed featured Galvatron recently. But on closer inspection, as he is never named or even seen in full, should it really say its him for sure? I was thinking of rving the section to an earlier version, but I'd appreciate the feedback.SMegatron 11:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)