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Wetman asked, "who is queen Elena?" Elena was the queen of Italy at the time, by birth Jelena Pietrovic Niegos of Montenegro. She was recently married to [Victor_Emmanuel_III_of_Italy Vittorio Emmanuele III of Italy]. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Simplex (talk • contribs) .

— and was particularly well loved by her husband's subjects, for her empathetic and unassuming nature. Bill 19:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Monumento ai Caduti d'Elena

Someone should upload a picture of the «Monumento ai Caduti d'Elena». The only picture I know is on http://www.online.latina.it/scultura/gaeta/. I myself don't know how to do these thingies.

[edit] Napoleonic heraldry - page links

Actually, I miswrote, Gaeta is mentioned on that page, as "Gaete" (the French spelling, if without its accent) — but just barely. The nobility of Gaeta is considerably more extensive than the creation(s?) of Napoleon. At any rate, short of an extensive site on Gaetan nobility, a link to that kind of thing is irrelevant to a general article on Gaeta; before that, a rather wide selection of links of more general applicability might be included, for which see [1]. Bill 16:42, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I've put in that promising link above too, but as I only entered Gaeta because of the Napoleonic duchy and the Byzantine Dux, I feel I've done more then my part integrating all the Catholic Encyclopaedia data. Anyway, every source (I don't now any other place giving this information, execept my Wiki-contributions based on the same source) is best mentioned, whether it's less then 1% our over 90% of the page. Fastifex 17:36, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ==Diocesan history==

[edit] Gaeta

From Attilios to Festifex and Wetman

Yes, the interest of diocesan history can be disputable. But your last edit however deleted at all parts of the lay history of Gaeta. I reverted to last mine: if you want, reinsert the diocesan history in a separated paragraph as before, even though I continue to think that's totally out of contest. If you are happy in this way.

Now I want to clarify a thing: what are we writing here? In how many history articles of Wikipedia can you find a diocesan history of a city in such a detail, with exact numbers given about faithful people of... the beginning of 20th century, as that material has been extracted from Catholic Encyclopedia? Check dedicated articles like History of Naples or Hisory of Palermo: can you find any news about the Neapolitan or Pelermitane diocese? why Gaeta should deserve it? Has its bishopric had ever some national relevance, like those of Brixen or Trento? Couldn't we think that, instead, a reference to the Catholic Enc. could be preferable for the ones interested in such detailed things?

In my opinion we should not mantain things in WP only for the sake to mantain it. One must ask: is it RELEVANT (for the moment at least)? I'm a Gaeta's history studious: I can tell you that far more important pieces of it are missing, for example the part relative to the Duchy of Gaeta, when the city was one of the most important ones in southern Italy. Why don't we add that material before inserting things about the diocese (and also written in a 19th C. English)? I have some books about history of Gaeta, some very detailed: in NO ONE of them there are cited with such a detail the infos that you want to reinsert, while so many other things are included that in WP are still missing.

And then a question of mine: are you sticking about that marginal things only because YOU have been the one that inserted it? Why don't you improve history of other related cities (my suggestions: Sperlonga, Formia, Minturno, Capua, etc., or even History of Naples) instead?

Respectfully, Attilios.

A mention that Gaeta was the seat of a 9th-century bishop didn't seem inapropos. Material from Catholic Encyclopedia that was relevant in 1908 didn't seem relevant now. I merely saw that a mix of material, some of it interesting, was all commented out. But fix it to suit yourself. --Wetman 22:11, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Is "Constantine of Gaeta" actually the bishop Constantine, who took refuge at Gaeta? Chopping up articles can lose information. --Wetman 12:52, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] the NATO base

I used to live in Gaeta, because of the NATO base, but there is only one line about it in the article. The base is an important part of the city, and I felt that it desevres some metion. Unforntueatly, the base is being moved out, and the flag ship of the Sixth fleet leaving for Rome. I am not sure when this will happen, but i feel that it will be another blow to the city. I greatly enjoyed reading this page, I hope that it will contiune to improve!

[edit] The Pavement of Via Independenza

The old downtown area and the pedestrian street parralel to the main coastal road in Gaeta are both paved with large, nearly black stone. My wife, from Gaeta, told me that this stone came from the excavation of Eroleo and Pompeii. On a very clear day, one can see Mount Vesuvius 70 miles away, and know that the black stone under your feet came out of that mountain in 76 A.D. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.25.0.207 (talk) 13:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC)