Talk:Günther von Kluge

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http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERkludge.htm indicate Hans not Günther. 209.90.162.50 08:51, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Actually he was Hans Günther von Kluge. Mikkalai 05:57, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Place of Death

von Kluge committed suicide during an airplane flight from Metz, France to Berlin, Germany. Some sources list his place of death as Metz (the origination of the flight) and some as Berlin (the desitination of the flight). I'm not sure what to put in the infobox place of death. If someone knows of a standard, please advise. FinFangFoom 11:03, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Most sources say that he used the given name Hans. His nickname "Kluge Hans" (clever Hans) confirms this. This article ought to be moved to either Hans von Kluge or Hans Günther von Kluge. Adam 12:47, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

The photo appears to have been sanitized to remove the standard uniform eagle & swastika. Sca 16:24, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

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In answer to that, it is possible, that this is a family photo. From 1945 until 1949 there was no German government, only a military occupation, the Allied Control Council. One of the orders was the 'de-nazification', all items that showed a swastika were outlawed. Thus family photos showing uniforms had to have the swastika scratched off or covered with ink etc. or be destroyed.

As far as this photo is concerned, the above is not the case: this more likely a pre-1934 photo; i.e., von Kluge is wearing a Reichswehr uniform. This can be deduced from the Kokarde in the upper middle of his hat; this was replaced by the eagle with a swastika in its talons (Hoheitsadler) around 1934 by order of Hitler. HTH, Jim_Lockhart 13:26, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suicide or Murdered by Jürgen Stroop?

Kazimierz Moczarski was an officer in the Polish Home Army. After the war he was imprisoned and was held in the same cell as Jürgen Stroop. In his book, Rozmowy z katem (Conversations with an Executioner), Chapter 23 is entitled Stroop Liquidates the Field-Marshal. Here Moczarski gives Stroop's description of how Stroop, as HSSPF of Rhein-Westmark was detailed by Himmler to investigate Kluge's involvement with the July Conspiracy. Upon collecting and finding "damning evidence", Stroop presented Kluge with the choice of suicide or the People's Court. Kluge refused, and according to Stroop, "In the end he found himself on the floor, on the beautiful carpet, with a bullet in his head...".

Himmler then instructed Stroop over the phone to write up his report to contain the airport suicide story. kovesp 23:12, 14 June 2007 (UTC)