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Holy Zombie _______!

In multiple episodes of Futurama [off the top of my head, the one where Lila goes blind and Bender becomes a gangster; and another episode where they find the underwater city of Atlanta], Professor Farnsworth says in astonismhent "Holy Zombie--" and then the last word has been edited out by [adult swim]. I've been dying to know what word got censored from that line. If anyone's got the DVD maybe they could figure it out. Maybe it could go in the trivia section or under the Professor's character page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ARBlackwood (talk • contribs)

The full quote is "Sweet Zombie Jesus!". Also, please sign your Talk posts (~~~~). EVula 06:21, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
He says "Sweet Zombie Jesus" in "The Deep South," and "Holy Zombie Jesus" in "Bender Gets Made." Elwood00 T | C 14:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Production

Do we really have to have the last line of 'Devil's Hands' quoted? The last time I visited this page, I hadn't seen it, and if the quote had been in then I'd have been pretty annoyed to have the ending 'spoiled' in a small way. I've since seen it, but I'm not sure the quote is strictly necessary or relevant to this bit. Some people who haven't seen all the episodes will surely be visiting.

I think the line fits well with the context and doesn't give away very much about the last episode. After all, how easy is it to infer the rest of "The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings" from that one sentence? (It's rather like when my friend Ian told me the last line of the Simpsons Halloween episode "Homer3" was "Mmm, erotic cakes." I didn't have a clue in Robot Hell what the episode would be about.) Anville 14:17, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Mike Levey Parody

Was there a parody of Mike Levey on Futurama? --66.215.219.188 08:41, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

You've asked minor variations on this question in three different places. -- Cyrius|✎ 13:49, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Minor Characters page

L33tminion said "Split off minor characters to seperate article in response to objection" in a recent edit, what was this objection, moving the recurring characters to another page seems unnecessary to me and I would like to change it back. I do think it could use a bit of cropping though (mainly LaBarbara Conrad and Father Changstein-El-Gamal) - Diceman 12:35, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

This article is a featured article candidate (see above). I objected to the inclusion of a long list of characters in this article because it doesn't need one here. There are only six or seven main characters in the series; all the rest are supporting characters. In fact, I objected to this article becoming a feature article because it needs significant work; almost all of it is made up of lists. --b. Touch 21:24, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Featured Candidacy

When I saw this article, I thought it seemed like an overlooked featured candidate, but after the constructive criticism it has received, it is clearly not at that level yet. Still, this is an excellent article, and I would like to congratulate the people who worked on it immensely. I'm going to refer this to peer review, and do some more work on editing the article. I think that this article will definitely be able to meet the featured standard. --L33tminion | (talk) 16:56, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)


Things that need to be done:

  • Add references (including in-article references)
  • Make more prose-like (but I love the lists of trivia... perhaps some of those should branch off into seperate articles?)
  • Make introduction more robust
  • Add more screen captures (that's already been improved quite a bit)
  • The info on syndication in the intro might be incorrect, that needs to be clarified ("Appearing on Cartoon Network does not mean it's in syndication (it just means its being re-run), and doesn't it come on the other Turner networks as well?", "If a show is being broadcast on a major network at a fixed time, regaurdless of country (for example, on Teletoon in Canada), that is not syndication; it's just being re-run.")

--L33tminion | (talk) 16:09, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)

As far as references go, would it be sufficient to list the Futurama series as the reference. Or should we be adding footnotes to facts on an episode by episode basis? I would think the series is sufficient instead of episode numbers the same way a book title is sufficient instead of page numbers.--Will2k 14:23, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)
For material derived from the show itself—character info, plot references, and so forth—I think listing the series is enough. In some cases, it may be necessary to do more: for example, when one episode contradicts another. (Remember, this is an encyclopedia article, not a fansite.) However, for this article to become an FA, we need to establish why the subject is relevant. This requires outside information about the show's production history, its critical reception, awards won and beratings suffered, references seen elsewhere, and all that.
Anville 16:30, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Futurama: TV series > Fair exhibit

Concerning whether Futurama should direct to the TV series article, not the fair exhibit, see Talk:Futurama#TV series > Fair exhibit.

Amy Wong

Does anybody know if Amy speaks Cantonese? Beacuse in the episode "Amazon Women in the Hood", when Amy is bending Bender's arm, she mumbled something in "Chinese". However, the Caption said it was Cantonese. So I'm quite confused here.

For people that know the answer, would you please reply?

Cantonese is a dialect of Chinese.--Will2k 13:37, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

CANCELLATION

Someone should add a section discussing the show's cancellation... Themindset 05:56, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

The "Production" section has quite a bit on the cancellation. Did you want more? -- Cyrius|✎ 22:37, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
I think it would be interesting if someone mentioned why the series was cancelled. Did it have low ratings? -- Andrew Parodi 09:49, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
As I understand it, its cancellation had more to do with expense than popularity. Futurama had excellent, high-quality animation that often included artfully-done CG and sprawling backgrounds. You could order a whole season of something with low-grade, assembly-line animation like, say, Family Guy, for the cost of one or two episodes of Futurama. -RannXXV 19:13, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Then again, there is the fact that this is Fox who cancelled the show. I know it is a bit old, but it does seem a common gripe by many people that Fox cancels shows prematurely as can be seen in Family Guy's return and the recent talk about a potential Futurama re-birth. -Thebdj 20:00, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Clothing

Is there any information on the rings that are on the shoulders of most people's suit jackets?

they are there to make the clothing look futuristic, I assume.......

  • Nobody wears rings. Rings are stupid.
To the person who found the above comment offensive its actually a quote from the show regarding 'raver' rings Discordance 16:15, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
I removed their comment because I found that offensive. (February 3, 2006)

Linguistics section

I found a problem in the linguistics section about ask-aks, the reason ask in the future is aks is because the incorrect slang/ebonics changes ask to aks, and in the future this is accepted as the norm. " In certain cases, transposition of adjacent consonants, particularly when the first is [s]. For instance "ask" realized "aks""--wikipedia-ebonics...And i hear aks first hand. Does anyone else agree? ---citanul

I have a few problems with the linguistics section:

  • "The sound duh, used to express exasperation, has been joined by the sounds guh, buh, spluh and other similar sounds." and "obviously has been replaced with globviously" - I don't believe these are actual linguistic changes, just Amy's way of speaking, or popular slang at best. This would be like a article about today stating that "the word 'jewelry' has been replaced by 'bling'".
  • "The lyrics to 'Happy Birthday' and 'Santa Claus is Coming to Town' have been replaced with modern counterparts." - I don't remember the "Happy Birthday" change off the top of my head, but "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" had the tune changed (most likely for copyright reasons), so it's technically not the same song, and the lyrics were changed for humor (not to mention that using the real lyrics would be infringement also), not to indicate that the popular song had undergone revisions. Perhaps the bigger issue here anyways is these lyric changes are not really linguistic changes in the first place, and would not fall under this category anyways.
  • "Smizmar means 'life partner'" - This is a borrowed word from an alien language, and I don't believe that the average human would refer to his wife as his "smizmar". It would only be used to refer to persons of Kiff's species, or similar species.

Any thoughts? --Pagrashtak 19:45, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

I agree with the first and third point -- I just thought the same thing while reading the article. "Happy Birthday" has been replaced by a song with new lyrics and a somewhat different tune. Of course, the article is itself clogged with excess trivia and logical leaps -- it really needs a cleanup. --24.21.96.58 13:44, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

All very good points. This article needs a clean up as people seem to keep wanting to add too much random trivia to it. Should we split off a seperate trivia page for all the surplus that people keep adding? --Apyule 00:57, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
The first thing this article needs is massive pruning. For example, the bulleted list under the "Setting" section is a) a list, which Wikipedia is not, and (IMO) b) not important enough to be included anyways. I don't think it should be split off into a separate page either, for reason b). The next step would be to add more "real-life" information about the show, such as the content in the "Production" and "Non-broadcast production" sections. These would also be the sections to include more references. Is anyone interested in trying to bring this article up to Featured Article standards? --Pagrashtak 03:12, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Could it be appropriate to mention in this section that the name of the planet Uranus has been changed to Urectum? Orri Tómasson 09:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Article Cleanup

Alright, I took my own advice and started pruning. I've started moving things under the appropriate heading (Richard Nixon -> Politics) and deleted some things that were mentioned more than once (Richard Nixon again). I split off doop and parallel universes into their own sections. Actually, I was somewhat tempted to delete the parallel universes part - I'm not sure it's important enough for this article - but I've been bold enough for today. I also moved the pictures around to try to make the page look a little better. Other thoughts for this article that I thought I'd try to get a consensus of on first:

  • Delete the list of political third parties. done
  • Delete (or merge elsewhere) the "Parallel universes" section - I feel that this section is distracting right now, the information is not as integral to the show as other sections. done
  • Find a way to move the "Characters" section higher - Introducing the reader to this information earlier on will make reading the rest of the article easier, as the other sections reference characters. done
  • Find a way to move the "Production" section higher - As I mentioned above, I think this article needs to focus more on "real-life" information, such as the Production section. rejected
  • Does anyone else find it weird that the words "Rough Draft Studios" are nowhere found in this article?

As always, I welcome your feedback. I'm going on vacation for the weekend, I'll get started with more cleaning when I get back if there aren't objections. --Pagrashtak 20:04, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

good work, and excellent things to keep working on. --Apyule 02:54, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
I'd like to help. Frankly, I think most of the trivia needs to be cut out. It's not encyclopedic, and it's well-covered by other websites. It seems that older versions of this article had even more lists, but they were "cleaned up" by putting them into prose.
I think the standard here should be to read each paragraph like you'd never seen the show before. Does it make sense? I feel that most of the inline, unexplained trivia on this and other Futurama-related pages (like Bender Bending Rodriguez) would be massively confusing to anyone who wasn't familar with the series. Thoughts? --Djur 05:42, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
I haven't receive any objections, so I removed the third party list and the parallel universe section. I also did a little editing to the politics section while I was in there. I'm undecided about the order of the sections. I'd appreciate it if someone could point me to a couple of well-written articles about TV shows that are fairly lengthy to see how it's been handled elsewhere. --Pagrashtak 02:55, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
Some other articles to look at are are Family Guy and The Simpsons (good because of the similarities to Futurama), and the following featured articles on TV shows: Blackadder, Coronation Street, Dawson's Creek and Doctor Who. Felix_the_Cat and Our Gang are also worth looking at. Hope that this helps. --Apyule 05:09, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
I moved the Characters and Planet Express sections to the top and made them subsections of the new Characters and plot section, as the Family Guy and The Simpsons articles have the characters and plot up top. I edited the Planet Express section some (shortened names, etc.) since it's right below the character section. Seeing as how each character has his/her own page, I think the next thing to do is rework that section as prose instead of a list, possibly leaving some of the trivia for the character pages, merging the Char and Plan Ex sections in the process. I've changed my mind about moving the Production section, Setting needs to come before it. --Pagrashtak 14:54, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
I nixed the "Trivia" section, which consisted of two bullet points:
==Trivia==
It's not very illuminating and not at all necessary—the only part of it which might spruce up the article is the trivium about Richard Nixon, which could easily be merged elsewhere. Anville 17:44, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Futurama Direct-to-Video Greenlit

Did anyone read this article yet: IGN DVD Exclusive - Futurama Direct-to-Video Greenlit? Perhaps, after the direct-to-video movie, this means the show could return like Family Guy!!! -Hyad 02:34, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

Episode Articles

Since M*A*S*H has over 1,000 articles about each and every episode, I thought this could do with some. Comments? -- A Link to the Past 23:01, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

I have no opinions about whether it is a good idea or not. But if it is done, they should be made by chopping up the episode guides rather than starting from scratch. -- Cyrius|✎ 23:09, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
Oh, no doubt about that, but we need...
  • The Writer
  • The Director
  • Episode #
  • Air Date
  • References (as in, like, pop culture, movies, etc.)
  • Trivia

Etc. -- A Link to the Past 23:44, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

It looks like you can find most of that information here. siafu 23:49, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
Is that a 'no, I disagree with putting this information on Wikipedia since it's there already' or a 'here, use this to put it on Wikipedia'? -- A Link to the Past 00:00, July 20, 2005 (UTC)`
It's a "you were looking for specific information so here's a source that has that information!" Personally I think that individual episode articles sounds like a lot of work that I'm not interested in doing, but if that's your thing, have at it. siafu 00:08, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
Please, no references and no trivia. That very quickly turns into a giant cesspool of speculative garbage. As far as writer, director, and air date, have you not seen Futurama (TV series - season 1) and its siblings at all? -- Cyrius|✎ 00:18, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
I decided to test it out with the Pilot episode. Could I get help with that one, to see how well it is executed?
Also, not particularly knowing much about the Season articles. Futurama is loaded with references, as well. Star Trek, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Mario, etc. -- A Link to the Past 00:23, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
I'm confused; what are you adding that's not in Futurama (TV series - season 1), as Cyrius mentioned, and why would you add it to this article and not to the articles about the episodes? May I suggest that this be moved to Talk:Futurama (TV series - season 1)? --Pagrashtak 00:42, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
It will be able to go more indepth on a brief summary and a couple lists. If each episode went indepth on the Season pages, it'd be huge. -- A Link to the Past 00:45, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

What exactly have you tested out? -- Cyrius|✎ 00:51, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Nothing yet. But I'm gonna try it soon, tomorrow probably. -- A Link to the Past 00:56, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

DOOP and Duplo logo

I have a sneaking suspicion that the Doop logo is a parody of the Lego Duplo logo. See below. Anyone agree? They look pretty similar. -Hyad 23:26, July 25, 2005 (UTC) right|150px|, right|75px|

They don't look terribly similar to me. -- Cyrius|✎ 02:42, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
I think that they look very similar. The font is virtually identical. I guess that it could be mentioned in the doop article. --Apyule 05:04, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
Pretty much any two sans-serif fonts rendered with a thick stroke in yellow will look fairly similar to these. The DOOP does not and should not have its own article, and even if it did, this is pure speculation. -- Cyrius|✎ 07:23, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
I would like to merge the DOOP article into this article. --Pagrashtak 13:34, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
Even if the doop logo is a parody of duplo, I haven't seen this idea mentioned anywhere else, so to put it in the article might violate the No original research rule—unless you know of an external source for this.
BTW I have a feeling this has been discussed before, but I notice that 'doop' has been uppercased throughout the article. Given that it is only ever written in lower case in the show, shouldn't we use lower case too? --DudeGalea 08:21, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
It's my assumption the DOOP logo is lower case so can be viewed from either way up (which would make sense in directionless space). On the DOOP website itself they use upper case letters (http://www.doop.org/), plus uppercase is the starndard convention for acronyms. - Diceman 14:21, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
That's a fan site, why are you treating it as canon? -- Cyrius|✎ 16:44, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
I'll submit it as evidence in any case. - Diceman 15:09, 31 July 2005 (UTC)


You're all wrong! I figure that it was taken from the artwork of the single Doop by the artist Doop (a cheesy dance trank sampling Charleston-esque music( that was originally released in 1993. The font on the cover is identical!

You'll find an example of it here: http://www.lynpaulwebsite.org/Resources/Doop-Doop.jpg

Space Wasp (first episode) vs. Space Bee ("The Sting" 5th episode)

In the dvd commentary, it was mentioned that they realized that the first episode mentions the space wasps, yet in "The Sting", it was Space Bees. I think they said it was changed because wasps don't produce honey. Calyth

New Season

There should be a new season of this show! RyanCahn

That's nice, Ryan. Just don't go pretending that what you want is true like you've tried elsewhere. -- Cyrius|✎ 03:45, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
There are talks of a direct-to-DVD Futurama Movie. Slashdot article here. Calyth 15:21, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
Why did they stopped it in the first place? Anyone knows why? --antilived 06:42, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Well, first of all, Fox doesn't know how to deal with successful shows. Look what they did with Family Guy. They gave it a horrible time slot against Friends and Survivor, and then when ratings weren't what they wanted they canned it, even though over the next few years Adult Swim and DVD sales would prove it to have a near religous following. Then they bring the show back, but at a fraction of the quality of the original series because some of the writers were lost and the remaining staff knew that they had a hit show, which got to their head and stifled their creativity.

It's pretty much the same with Futurama, except Futurama isn't coming back. It would be on/off at 6pm CST, meaning it wasn't technically in prime time. One week it might be on, but the next week there would be a football game and you wouldn't be able to see it. Again, this caused ratings to slip and Fox assumed that the show wasn't very popular. Second, Futurama is expensive to produce because of all the special effects it needs.

It seems to me that if Fox knew what it was doing it would have let the Simpsons go gracefully years ago and kept Futurama and Family Guy, therefore avoiding many of the problems which we, the viewers, have with the network. Captain Jackson 03:28, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Billy West confirms new season in 26 episodes. http://www.billywest.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2011&PN=1 --AiR 19:31, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Wow, you're right! However, you should wait for more confirmation on the event before putting this into the main article. --FlyingPenguins 20:11, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
I am moving the newly imputed rumor of the show's revival from the starting section to the "Possible revival" section. leaving it in the second paragraph only adds false hope for people who visit this page and have their hope shattered on the next sentence. Plus it really belongs in the Possible revival section. Baboo
I put a quote by Billy West and the original quote has some format mistakes. It seems someone correct all the mistake made by West. Shouldn't a quote be exact with or without the mistakes? Baboo

The info needs to be updated too. It got updated with Billy West's latest "confirmation" this morning, but not yet with his latest withdrawal. Qutezuce 07:47, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Futurama (TV series) -> Futurama

I suggest this page be moved to Futurama, which is currently a redirect to the TV series anyway. The only other Futurama that currently has an article is Futurama (New York World's Fair), which is a much less common usage as far as I know. A disambig notice linking to the Fair exhibit is already at the top of the TV series article. --Poiuyt Man talk 21:09, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

  • Sounds like a good idea to me. --Apyule 03:37, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
Done. Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 02:19, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Help is requested dealing with any double redirects, I'm gonna try to work on them right now but I'm not sure if I can get them all. Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 02:22, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Episode Guides

This doesn't really fit into anywhere, so I'll say this here. I think that it would be best if we just split each episode into a different article and make one page that displays a list of all the Futurama episodes, with a link to the each of the main episode guide, with a one or two-line summary and a thumbnail image on that page, similar to the Family Guy format. The current list/summary of each episode sorted by seasons seems to be very large in size. --FlyingPenguins 04:13, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Reference to Life in Hell

Since we're listing references between Futurama and Life in Hell, it may be worth noting that Groening's rabbit from Life in Hell show up in the peisode where Fry buys a pet.--68.40.173.159 03:12, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Need episode where Leela wipes Voyager 2 off her windshield

For the section Voyager 2 in fiction and popular culture. I remember that, but I have no clue what episode or season. Just edit the sentence there if you know. JamesHoadley 02:28, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Thankyou User:Rmbyoung. JamesHoadley 17:32, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Separate DVD article

Anyone object to me creating a new article about the DVDs a la The Simpsons DVDs and King of the Hill DVDs? - Wezzo 20:18, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Will go ahead with this later today then. - Wezzo 08:47, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Articles For The Episodes?

Just a suggestion would creating an article for every episode would make the episode list look cleaner. It does with Family Guy and American Dad! Thanks Empty2005 04:43, 14 December 2005 (UTC)


Bendar, Asimov, Prelude To Foundation

The first image of a robot seen by Hari Seldon is named "Bendar" and is mentioned in a video playing on a screen in the "Sacratorium" in "Mycogen" on "Trantor" in the book "Prelude To Foundation" by Isaac Asimov, founder of robotics(in the literary sense). I don't now if this bit of trivia is worthy of entry in the article or not, so I'm mentioning it here. Bendar lived on the planet of the origin of humanity and had a metal body. Drn8 04:53, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, only if you consider Aurora to be the original planet of the human species (which the Mycogenians certainly do). Anville 11:21, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Tivo Quote

The actual tagline is "Hey, Tivo! Suggest this!" as seen on the screen capture at [flickr]

Expense

I heard that one reason Futurama was cancelled was because episodes were expensive to create, because of science fiction animation such as flying through space. Is this mentioned anywhere in the article? Captain Jackson 02:38, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Red Dwarf similarities

The Wikipedia article currently contains a section devoted to comparisons with Red Dwarf. I'm not sure if the section is really worthy enough to stay there, so I won't add this link there, but I found the folloing article extremely interesting:

Futurama Echoes

Intriguing... --Nick RTalk 02:51, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Cancellation Delation

I delated the "Cancellation" section that was added and but before "Production" because the Production section said what the Cancellation section had. -Icweiner

Minimum Security Orphanarium

Just on a technical note I changed the place Leela was diposeted by her parents from an Orphanage to a minimum security orphanarium.

Zigbigadoorlue 05:29, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Animated clip in opening

Is there a list anywhere of all the animated films that are played on the giant TV screen in the opening before the Planet Express Ship crashes into it? Qutezuce 21:50, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

      There is a partial list here: http://www.palmy.net.nz/futurama/opening/index.html Sadly the list have never been completed due          
      to the shortness and/or obscurity of some of the clips, however Dave still enter new information whenever he identifies a new 
      opening.

Passing references to dead crews under "Planet Express"

I'm pretty sure that it has been said in the DVD commentary on "The Sting" on Season 5 (or Season 4, depending on which sequencing you follow) that they wanted to do pretend to do away with a character, and linked it up with the Space Wasp. However since "wasps doesn't make honey", they have to turned it into Space Bees. Essentially, the crew that died on the Space Wasp trip is the same crew that flew the space ship found in the Space Bee hive. 24.84.126.117 09:37, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Template

I've recently created and added a Futurama template to most of the Futurama-related articles. If you have any questions or comments please contact me on my talk page. --TBC??? ??? ??? 03:53, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Petition links

There have been links to a petition to bring back Futurama [1] inserted into the article today. But back when it became clear that Futurama was cancelled there was another petition [2] with more than 150 000 signatures. This linked one has a bit over 10 000, and it doesn't sound new either. So the question is do we link it or not? Haakon 10:57, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I think itd be ok to link both. I changed the wording on the 10,000 one as it was making spurious assertions. Discordance 13:03, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

These petitions are rarely successful. They are not considered encyclopedic. Jtrost (T | C | #) 13:50, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I dont see the harm in mentioning it as a fan reaction stating however these are rarely successful and providing the links as sources, they certainly dont belong in EL though. Discordance 15:26, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I tried cleaning up the sentence some more, it seems perhaps a little misplaced being in possible revival now. Discordance 19:21, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

rv fancruft

It seems that lately a lot of reasonably relevant information is being deleted with no justification other than: "rv fancruft" This seems a little harsh and ill explained. What on earth does rv fancruft mean? Simondrake 00:17, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to reiterate my point on RV FANCRUFT. Having looked it up (On wikipedia, no less) I see there is a fine line between fancruft and trivia. And it seems there's some delete-happy editors out there who draw the line just before the subtitle 'Trivia', deleting everything after it whilest waving their beloved banner that reads: "rv fancruft". Now I've seen some trolling in my time, but this is beyond a joke. There's a trivia section on most wikipedia pages refering to works of fiction, so the fact that Futurama's trivia keeps getting deleted and swept under the proverbial carpet with no more explanation than one word and a crude abbreviation seems to me not only callous but almost vindictive. Simondrake 00:17, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

The article is already 44 kilobytes. Very small pieces of information nobody cares about belongs on a fan site, not an encyclopedia.

Trivia: Nibbler has his own spaceship. Fancruft: Nibblers extra eye can be seen poking out of a bin in every replay of the scene where Fry falls into the cryogenic freezer.

-- infinity0

Actually, the bit about Nibbler's eye being in every scene of Fry falling into the cryotube is a very legitimate piece of trivia. It shows that they were actually being pretty careful about continuity, even before continuity is revealed, something that differentiates it from the Simpsons. -RannXXV 18:38, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Meh, if the "continuity" point is made and there is a paragraph on it, it can be used as evidence to back up the point. -- infinity0 18:48, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I thought the DVD release of the first episode had nibblers shadow inserted and it wasnt originally present? Discordance 12:29, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

No, it was there the whole time, they always planned to address it eventually. Deathregis 03:43, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

For this entry, I think it should only include the basics. It is an overview page. I think trivia and minor facts could be better included on the individual episode or character pages. --H2g2bob 15:40, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Religon

Are you sure that those religons described as merged to the Anglamated Church is the offical religon of Earth?

New "relationships" section

Sorry to further lengthen an already long article, but it seems to me that the article focused far too much on the "extended" Futurama universe rather than the relationships between the main characters which, after all, are at the center of the show. I added a brief section to address that. Redquark 19:28, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

FWIW, here's a couple of thoughts on your new section. First I think the basic idea of this section is right and adds to the article. However I disagree with the statement: "The nuclear family seems to have collapsed completely in the 31st century". Amy's family is recognizably a late model nuclear family; Amy herself has as near as possible a traditional relationship with Kif - at least as near as biology will allow; Leela's parents' relationship is not dysfunctional, even if their relationship with her is (though I'd argue that one too :-). So overall, I think your phrasing there is too strong. Gwernol 20:06, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Futurama Comics are they canon?

Just wanting to be sure, are the events portrayed in the comics considered to be canon? I am thinking that they should be, so would it be possible to add information from them into the main/sub articles? Nic tan33 04:08, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

On a related note, are the events from the game canon as well? Considering the ending I have doubts about that, unless it happens to be a 'What-If' scenario... Nic tan33 04:16, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

If you submit info from the comics, it should be relevent to the TV show, that is what the article is about. I would suggest you do a Futurama comic article with your info. -Doodlebomb

Global Warming

Although it IS stated that it was cancelled out by a nuclear winter, it is also stated that it was a fraud by the scientific community. Should the refferences to global warming be removed from the setting?

possiblely it's a bit confusing really....maybe there is different global warmings like the first one was a fraud, the second was knocked out by nuclear winter and the thrid with the whole giant ice cube thing. well just some ideas...Slayerx675 16:24, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Gender and sexual norms

Nothing specifically against it but does this section actually say something? I think it´s depicted pretty same as it´s in the present.

I tend to agree. Most of the things mentioned in the section are from a single episode and not a long running thing. They were probably just put in the show because either the producers thought it would be funny, or they wanted to spoof some movie or had some plot idea that needed it. There doesn't appear to be any theme to the section, just a random mention of various related happenings from the show. Is there any reason that Futurama's depiction of gender and sexual norms is notable?Qutezuce 10:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
It's notable in that the theme appears rather often for what is ostensibly a sci-fi comedy. Compare to e.g. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, where it rarely arises. Redquark 03:43, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Unnecessary "Linguistics" part

Futurama does not "makes several bold predictions about the future of linguistics". It's a freaking cartoon comedy show. I do however think that the alien alphabet stuff bears some relevance, so I suggest that part 3 (the linguistics part) be removed and replaced by one containing only info regarding the alien alphabet, or something like that. This is also part of a bigger (psudo)problem or issue here on Wikipedia, and that is that articles about some kind of TV-show, or comic book, or humorous website, or something other that may have some degree of fandom around it, tends to be less relevant in its' content and is written with a slightly ironic or consciously naïve language than other more serious articles. This might just be me imagining apocryphal things though. Well enyway, erase and replace. --Blackfield 23:00, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the "bold predictions" phrasing is a little tongue-in-cheek, but the sentence is not false or misleading so there's no reason why it should be changed. There's no style guideline saying that Wikipedia prose must be boring! And I don't see why anything should be cut --- the section is very short anyway. Redquark 03:49, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

futrama acapella themesong?

On a recent rerun that I saw on Adult Swim, the theme song was acapella. I want to know where I can get it. Does anybody know? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.189.245 (talk • contribs)

This is a special opening theme appearing in the Spanish Fry episode, available on the season four DVD set. Haakon 22:42, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Leela/Leeloo

leela's name is a little simmilar to The Fifth Element's character leeloo, don't you think?:)

who knows maybe a bit, but leeloo doesn't have one eye and purple hair and followed around by a guy named fry

Confusion of Futurama theme song to Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit"

I'm removing this part of the article because it's false in every aspect. If you want further proof read on. The song 'Smells like Teen Spirit' by nirvana uses the chord structure

F Bb G# C#

When futurama's chord structure (The part that the article is referring to) goes

E A D A

They aren't even in the same key much the less using the same notes, furthermore I think that 'it has been reported' does not qualify is a valid citation.

Heres a copy of the article for reference "Some people find the theme song for the TV show Futurama to be very reminiscent of the hit 1991 Nirvana track Smells Like Teen Spirit. Apparently, the notes are the same, but, the order is different. It has been reported that when a band plays a cover version of the Nirvana track at a venue, some people listening think they are indeed playing the Futurama theme, until the band play more of the song, then the people realise that the two songs are different." PrettyMuchBryce 20:37, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Question

Why do you have so much info on Futurama but so little on shows which are actually good like King of the Hill? Wetquinn 23:35, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

There are more Futurama fans than King of the Hill fans writing for Wikipedia. If you like KotH, feel free to add to that article to redress the balance. Redquark 01:50, 25 April 2006 (UTC)


List Of Happening In The Futurama Timeline

Like for example "petrollemo reserver ran out in 2048" i know the quote is a bit off, but a timeline 2048- Resrvers of Petrolelem run out 2050-global warming is cancelled out by nulcear winter(i don't think one is write but it's just a example.Slayerx675 16:28, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Are you suggesting something like this should exist? Because it does. See Timeline of Futurama Stardust8212 17:38, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Lol - when I first read this I saw it as Timeline of Futurama Stardust which is a delightful concept. --Neo 23:04, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Possible Revival

One of the adult swim interludes during Futurama has been stating that there will be 4 direct to DVD movies but Cartoon Network won't get broadcast rights. Jon 20:00, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Content saying as much was recently removed from the article, probably because it can't be verified anywhere (if the Adult Swim website says it, though, it would count). EVula 20:16, 11 May 2006 (UTC)