Talk:Futilitarianism
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[edit] Removing
Removing the clean-up tag until a more specific reason is given. It's a stub - stubs by definition need development. A clean-up tag serves no purpose at this point. Rabidwolfe 16:48, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- Stubs invariably gather dust. The clean-up tag points out that the article needs attention: e.g., format/style. -- Robocoder (talk | contribs) 02:26, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Rabidwolfe. The stub tag at the bottom of the page is a more appropriate signal for expansion than a clean-up label. Clean-up, BTW, is intended to mark an article that primarily needs "wikification, spelling, grammar, tone, and sourcing," not expansion. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:47, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Roots
I have tagged the statement, "Its roots are in the existentialist movement of the early 20th century." as it lacks a source, and as it stands, appears to conflict with published works that suggest alternate roots:
- In his book, William J. Newman associates "The Futilitarian Society" (1961) with conservatism.
- In "Voting Rites: The Devolution of American Politics" (1999), Ron Hirschbein writes, "Utilitarianism has been supplanted by futilitarianism."
-- Robocoder (talk | contribs) 04:38, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- These are unrelated uses of the word. Hirschbein seems to be just making a pun, talking about why people don't vote--because they think it's pointless, futile. The Futilitarian Society has nothing to do with the "futilitarianism" described in the article; I just read the preface on questia.com ( http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=3493175 ) which makes this fact clear. I'm not sure that "futilitarianism" as an "ism" exists outside of one or two (perhaps half-joking) mentions in Brad Blanton's books--and of course the medical sense, which should probably be primary--but in any case, these uses of the word are not related. 65.75.18.227 14:51, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cleanup
I would like a more specific message about cleanup. Perhaps this should be reclassified as a medical ethics stub rather than a philosophy one? Rabidwolfe 22:54, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Weak futilitarianism?
In Medical Ethics, can there be a weaker sense of futilitarianism, where the doctor denies a treatment, not because the life is not worth living, but because the treatment will not improve the patient's health in any significant way.Farazars 20:55, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
If you have a source for that, please add it to the front page. Rabidwolfe 21:41, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
