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[edit] Futanari

I don't usually interfere with the flow of wikipedia, but the article and several editors are blatantly inaccurate with respect to the meaning of "futanari": 二成、双成、双成り、二形、両形 - all spellings have at least some dictionary definitions as hermaphrodite (両性具有者) or androgyne. Source: Kenkyusha's New Japanese-English Dictionary and Daijirin 3rd edition. Both definitive dictionaries. No need for "double form" nonsense, or suggestions that is a neologism; however, I have not updated the article.

[edit] Deletion ?

I found a reference from a well known futanari artist that defines the concept. I hope it helps preventing the deletion of the article.

There was a reason Trump's definition was not sourced before. His homepage is not "link-free" (http://trump.sakura.ne.jp/link_link.htm), and I believe this booster of pageviews might offend him. Especially without asking him. 3pyon 12:02, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] pornographic links

Alright, this is a serious issue: (for the tiny, tiny sliver of people who would ever see this page) Should the Futanari page contain pornographic links? I have contributed to this article because I like Futanari as much as the next pervert, (I did the 4 Jan 2005 edits) but I don't feel that Wikipedia, wonderful font of information that it is, should be used as a search engine for exotic porn simply because it is expansive enough to contain definitions of terms found in exotic porn. Pornographic links have been removed from this page before, but I'm not about to be the one to do it again unless I get some positive feedback on this. Comments?

Also, somebody removed the term 'hermies'; frankly I'm glad of this because the name creeps me out and I've never heard it before. Who took it out and what was your reason? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.165.46.236 (talk • contribs) 22:12, 12 February 2005.

Shut the fuck up, tenks I know you edited that here.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.208.127.238 (talk • contribs) 01:13, 26 May 2005.

Yeah, I've got to say this article is pretty offensive and non-PC, but the link bothers me. It looks like it's an advert. What's special about that site? Why is it linked? (Do we believe readers cannot google terms on their own anymore?) Paige 00:01, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I removed the first link because that site appears to be down.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.89.223.211 (talk • contribs) 00:39, 10 September 2005.
Google's fine for alot of stuff, but googling something like Futanari ends up with a lot of useless stuff that really doesn't explain it. Maybe a panel or two from Boku on Futatsu no Tsubasa would be a good compromise? Izuko 20:28, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
I would avoid links to porn. I can't say it's appropriate for wikipedia. --69.210.125.174 07:55, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_censored If the links are completely relevant they can be used. If they're spam/advertising, they can be removed. --Crossmr 02:56, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I wouldn't agree with Crossmr wholly. I think blatant pornographic images are unnecessary and inappropriate for this article. The pornography article, as well as pornography in Japan, however, are examples of appropriate use of images without directly revealing inappropriate content, keeping Wikipedia tasteful and appropriate for use by all ages. In general I do not think the article needs any images. Kevingamer 03:20, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Second Link

The link to 0bsidian.net does not seem appropriate. The site doesn't appear to have anything that distinguishes it from the surely thousands of futanari sites on the intarweb. Does anyone have an argument that it is somehow notable? -GregoryWeir 06:04, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Okay, then. I've removed it. -GregoryWeir 03:08, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
You're going about this all wrong! Put the thousands of websites up here ;D

SHEMALES. SERIOUS BUSINESS. <removed link to attack site>

[edit] How-to

WP:NOT wikipedia is not a how-to or instruction manual. Telling people how to act around transexuals falls undeer that. I can't see any way to clean up this paragraph or turn it into something useful:

Actual transsexuals who have not had genital surgery may or may not be pleased to be referred to by these terms. The polite choice is to mirror their own word-choices--with the caveat that, like any minority, what's an insult from an outsider may be an ironic term of bonding from another insider. unless someone else can, I'll remove it in a couple of days.--Crossmr 21:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citing actual artists?

I'm here looking up this word and I just had to comment. I think that this article should stick to defining futinari and not go into describiong specific artists. There are undoubtednly dozens and dozens of artists, each with their own styles. It's not practical to list them all, so it's probably best not to list any. --69.210.125.174 07:55, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree, there is a full futanari wiki at the following address to utilize for that purpose: http://www.futanari.org/wiki/
Furthermore, are all of the 18+ pages of anime/manga articles going to be given this runover? I am sure not many editors are not fully competent to talk about hentai, let alone futanari and other sub-genres. --65.42.81.48 11:44, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I've tried to remove mentions of specific artists, but I keep being reverted under grounds of vandalism by the anon who added the material in the first place. He also doesn't seem to want to discuss things even when I have explained the deletions. Unfortunately, his IP is shared so leaving messages on his talk page is no use, so there is nothing I can do about this article now (due to 3RR). Shame. _dk 06:38, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, I and some others have taken some action. View discussion here, or here. 3pyon 20:24, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Psuedo-Shock image

Is the image really nessisary? It is quite a shock, even to us 'in the know'. If you really need an image, I'm sure ones can be found that are at least a notch lower.--80.235.59.31 17:33, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Technically it violates the license it was uploaded under. I don't see this image being used to:
   * the issue of the comic book in question;
   * the periodical comic book series of which this issue is a part; or
   * the copyrighted comic book character(s) or group(s) on the cover of the issue in question;

so it probably should be considered for deletion. --Crossmr 17:36, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too many pics

I don't think it's necessary to have three pics in this article, there are more pics than text, only one would be Ok. --Black Omnimon 22:12, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] links etc.

i think the article should include links, so people can "get a taste" of futanari. Maybe something along the lines of http://futanariproject.pbwiki.com/translated which contains english mangas. but, yeah, whatever, im not trying to advertise or anything, it's just really hard to get a safe futanari site, you know? Good article, btw. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.134.241.115 (talk) 13:27, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] newhalf

You say that 'newhalf' specifically refers to people with women's bodies but only male genetalia. I watched an anime recently called "Okane ga Nai" which included a 'newhalf' character that was definitely male. The subbers defined 'newhalf' as a pre-op or non-op transexual, meaning men who live as women but have not had their bodies surgically altered. Perhaps this term needs more research?

Redqueen76 (talk) 00:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

No it doesn't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.101.113 (talk) 04:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)