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[edit] Jien Chen

Is there any info on the character Jien Chen? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by VampireWraith (talkcontribs) 07:58, 1 February 2007 (UTC).

He's a very unfairly-treated character. He dies in part 2 heroicly, redeeming himself in triumph, only to be "revived" in part 3 to play the role of a traitor again. The author is very unfair, must be crazy.


  • A few weeks ago I found out what you were talking about when I got some of the TPB Vols and a few issues. I really didn't see that coming. I mean he was a gentleman and a "True Successor" for the Hero Sword. Sword Saint, Wind, Bushi, Frost and even Conquer thought so. And lets not forget Nameless as well. Grand Chung and Wen Nu even thought he would be great to get the Ultimate Sword. Jien Chen does gets treated badly and for no good reason. The author's reason for him becoming a traitor 2 times made no sense.


  • Jian Chen is now missing after being defeated by Xiao Wu (he is now blind and lost Mou Ying Hung's hand). Probably he can't betray any people anymore.


  • He's blind......... it never ends for him. Writer Wing Shing Ma lets Cloud and Wind do whatever they want, but Cloud especially. Wing Shing Ma favorites Cloud. Cloud acts like a crazy asshole to people, yet some how Chu Chu liked him and he kills dozens of people even when those people are not evil… Cloud some how beats a god type of warrior like Nameless… and yet he gets away with it… all of it… but other characters like Jien Chen get treated like shit for reasons that make no sense whatsoever. Wing Shing Ma’s so called reasons for him becoming a traitor (2 times or more) was a complete failure on his writing. But not just with that character but also with the whole story itself. I mean even writers from DC and Marvel comics have come up with better reasons for characters becoming traitors than he has. After Storm Riders: Invading Sun #4… the writing went completely down hill. Wing Shing Ma writing as being good… has long since pasted. I would like to know from Wing Shing Ma why he seems to think that a character like Jien Chen should go from being a gentleman... to a betrayer so quickly and easily. It's either bad writing... or I'm just not getting it at all.

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Juetsumyifung.jpg

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[edit] Criticism

I tried improving the quality of the text but it still needs a revision of style according to Wikipedia's standards, besides referencing. Rsreston (talk) 13:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)