Talk:Fujian White Crane

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Contents 1 Style? 2 Previous version of article 3 Branches 4 Advertising?

[edit] Style?

Is the White Crane style soft or hard? Or does it vary between the individual sub-styles?

80.0.19.5 20:52, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

It's all relative.

Fujian White Crane can be safely said to be softer than Karate and harder than T'ai Chi.

Its use of isometric exercises probably puts in the the ballpark of Hung Gar in terms of hard & soft.

Maybe a little bit softer.

JFD 02:54, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Previous version of article

Fujian White Crane is a martial art style commonly placed in the 'category' Kung Fu. Today, there is a Fujian White Crane Kung Fu school thriving in Europe (namely the United Kingdom and Sweden) and growing under the instruction of a number of Instructors and Assistant Instructors. The head of this school is Mr Ngo Kah Swee, affectionately known as 'Dennis' to his students. The style that is taught is a mixture of both 'Tiger' and 'Crane' kung-fu styles, and was formerly known as Tiger-Crane Combination. The club has strong links with China, as the Chief Instructor Mr Ngo Kaw Swee has been officially commissioned by the Fujian Yongchun YiYun Wushu Society (China) to help with research into the history of the White Crane style. Fujian White Crane Kung Fu is accepted as original and from the same lineage by Yongchun White Crane Wushu (China). It may be noticed that Yongchun is the area from which the name for the style 'Wing Chun' has been derived, although the two styles should not be confused or linked to one another directly.

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JFD 15:33, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Branches

From what I have learnt personally in the White Crane martial arts, Kung Fu and Suang Yang (T'ai Chi), there are five distinct branches of Crane, not four, which I know as: Sleeping Crane, Calling Crane (Crying Crane), Feeding Crane (Eating Crane), Jumping Crane (Flying Crane) and, the missing one, Shaking Crane. I think Jumping Crane is another name for Flying Crane, not Sleeping Crane (which specialises in drunken-like movements). I am a student of Russell Suthern, himself a former student of Master Ngo Kah Swee before he defected from the club over some major disagreements with how it was run.
WhiteCrane 22:19, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

My source for conflating Jumping Crane and Sleeping Crane is Yang Jwing-Ming's "Essence of Shaolin White Crane".
JFD 00:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Advertising?

I am a little concerned about the use of www.fwckungfu.com as an external link, since it is the website of a specific club, Fujian White Crane Kung Fu, and could be seen as advertising. Their sister site however, www.kungfu-taichi.com, is a research group named Wushu Scholar, headed by Master Ngo Kah Swee (Dennis), the chief instructor of FWC Kung Fu; I am okay with this one.
WhiteCrane 22:30, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Both of the links to which you refer were in the original version of the article (see above), which is why I left them in. I've no objection to removing the FWC Kung fu site.
JFD 02:00, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

There are 4 original branches of white crane. As time went on other branches were developped as a result of style mixing etc...Shaking crane and ancestral crane are the same style. I have never heard of Jumping Crane and is certainly not flying crane. As for Shifu Yang's books on white crane they are a well done contribution to the martial arts. They are incorrect however in relation to the flying crane history in that they forms that definitaly do not exist in flying crane. Typical flying crane forms would rather be: San Shi liu Tian kong, Bai he sz men chong tian, Bai he luo san etc... Lorne Bernard representative of grand-master Lee Joo-Chian (heir of the flying crane system). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.56.215.149 (talk) 17:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)