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Of course. Be my guest. FearÉIREANN\^(caint) 23:33, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

1 Vote that you might find interesting
2 Your first barnstar, it seems

[edit] Vote that you might find interesting

Unfulfilled Christian prophecy title

It ends April 1st. Thanx...Tex 19:12, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your first barnstar, it seems

I was looking through your edits and decided that since they were so good I thought I'd give you this:

		The Original Barnstar
		For your significant contributions to Wikipedia and constantly keeping things working the way they should I award you this Barnstar. Acebrock 23:21, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

!! Very much appreciated. You even got me to put exclamation points before the sentence. --Fuhghettaboutit 01:08, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

This person loves asparagus!!!!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Grand pitty (talk • contribs)

Hi again. Congratulations on your barnstar! You've been due one for a while, I think... keep up the good work – Gurch 20:59, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Gurch.

[edit] Cats and Reference Desk/Science

Your comments at the Reference Desk are generally perspicacious, but I especially liked your comments today apropos of one's hurting a cat in order to make him/her "meow" and one's viewing animals as fungible. Even as I think it more likely than not that the question was posed in jest, I surely worry (notwithstanding that I well know many animals are in abusive homes; I suppose one is upset here because one has a specific example at which to look) that there is a cat out there somewhere being treated as described in the question. The cat with whom I live came to me after living in a similar situation; he was adopted with another cat by a family but returned to the Humane Society because he wasn't as playful as the other cat and thus wasn't enjoyed by the family's children. Your response to the questioner was altogether appropriate, I thought, and I hope, in the case that she should be real, that she will think about the fashion in which she treats her cat. I was particularly surprised to see that some people responded simply to the effect that "some cats are quiet" without making a normative comment; even as I generally avoid expressing opinions vis-à-vis the propriety of conduct referenced in certain questions (or the posing of questions themselves), in view of WP:AGF, WP:NPA, WP:BITE, and my general desire to disseminate information (rather than to debate), even to those with whom I disagree on many issues, I thought this was a case in which something needed to be said, and I thank you for having said it. Joe 06:04, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey Joe. Thanks for the endorsement. Like you, I hope it was just an April Fools/All Fools question (though of highly dubious taste); the subject of April Fools pranks is usually not to fool so much as to fool with humor. The question, and what it revealed about the questioner, repulsed me and, though I also try not to inject any normative message in my help desk responses, that one required a corrective response, for all the good it will do (did you see the questioner's later response; grrr). Though I agree in the main with WP:NPA, etc., there are situations where boilerplate policy must yield to the situation confronted. Now that I think about it, I probably shouldn't have used the word fungible—despite its aptness, you have to modify your writing to the suspected level of your audience—I highly doubt the questioner knows the word. "I was particularly surprised to see that some people responded simply to the effect that "some cats are quiet" without making a normative comment." Ditto! Though I'm not implying an affirming the consequent argument, did you know that one of the most common shared traits among serial killers is having tortured animals as children? Feel free to drop me a message anytime. --Fuhghettaboutit 07:22, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia survey

Hi. I'm doing a survey of Wikipedia editors as part of a class research project. It's quick, anonymous, and the data will be made available to the Wikipedia community later this month. Would you like to take part? More info here. Thanks! Nonplus 00:41, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Scalaeditor

I noticed you leave a message for User:Scalaeditor on his userpage; it struck me that you were probably intending to leave it on his talk page (so the new messages bar would light up). I moved it across for you, and deleted the history of the userpage, since the only thing there was the message. If I can be of any other help, please let me know. Essjay ^{Talk • Contact} 01:06, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Of course I meant to leave it on his/her talk page. Thanks for catching that! --Fuhghettaboutit 02:07, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Leon Warnerke

Article looks good. Thanks for telling me.--Dakota ~ ° 04:18, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: TFD Userbox message

Howdy! Thanks for your message. I assume you're referring to your "athiest" userbox. I do like that one a lot - the one I used to have said something along the lines of "This user believes the world would be a better, safer and more peaceful place without religion." I had it for like a week and then it was deleted. Grrr. -- eo 12:22, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh, OK like OMG, I totally get it now. Thanks very much. Is there a reason you keep it hidden? I mean, if one were to just display it on their page without it placing you into a "category" (as the userboxes do), would it be deleted? It isn't a Wiki Template anymore right? -- eo 13:07, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: my post

Thanks for the note, dude. Nice to know somebody actually reads this stuff, coz it took me forever to figure out how everything works and format that article right! ;-) I originally wrote it for a college class, and decided it would make a good first contribution. CaliforniaKid 05:10, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

thanks for fixing that typo on the patrick maclanahan page --Fuzzy 13:34, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. --Fuhghettaboutit 14:29, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Trabancos River

First, thaks for the translation of my article in Wikipdia Spanish, I'm very honoured.

Second, I try to help you or to hinder you (sorry).

Si entiendes esto en español una duda: ¿por qué elegiste este río que apenas tiene importancia)

Why that insignificant river (or brook) see you --Locutus Borg Image:Logo-Borg.gif, Talk to me 21:05, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Because Good articles are needed on every topic. It is also, as far as I can tell, the only Spanish language Wikipedia featured article that hadn't been translated or which had an English language equivalent.--Fuhghettaboutit 21:11, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] typo fixing

Hi, I read your tutorial on typo fixing on your user page. I'm glad to see people working on this sort of thing -- I've done a whole bunch of spelling fixes myself. My method is similar, but the details differ: I use Mozilla Firefox, which allows you to open multiple webpages as "tabs" within the same browser window. This makes it easy to have 30 or 40 pages queued up for checking at a time, if you like. The other technique I use is an automated spell-checker: there's SpellBound for Firefox, or the Google Toolbar for both IE and Firefox. One notable thing about typos is that they are often clustered together: an article with one typo is likely to have more. Google Toolbar's spellchecker is particularly good for this: it highlights the misspelled words in the browser's text area, so you can easily ignore the words that aren't actually misspelled. Keep up the good work! Cheers. Neilc 05:09, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for dropping by and glad someone read it--I was beginning to wonder if anyone would. I might just download some other browsers to try them out. I don't have much use for a spellchecker though; if I'm copyediting an article, I just make the corrections as I go on sight while making other text changes. Spelling is second nature and secondary when I'm in substantive change mode. I find the practices fundamentally different. I can spend a lot of time making one article fundamentally better, or in the same amount of time, making many articles incrementally better. I think they're comparable pursuits and do both. Shoot me a message any time.--Fuhghettaboutit 01:51, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AFD's without prod

Prod doesn't work anymore because the toolserver can't replicate. --Rory096_(block) 23:03, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikilimbo

(Personal attack removed)

I removed the AfD notice appended by this user, if only because ~~a nomination of a user page belongs at MfD~~ (WP:BEANS) you're such a nice guy. Joe 05:22, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey thanks Joe.--Fuhghettaboutit 05:34, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] userbox

W00t! Thanks!! -- eo 22:38, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome.--Fuhghettaboutit 02:15, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi! Pleased to meetchya-- Followed you home from a newbie page. Thanks for Category:Rare Steak! FrankB 02:50, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Well now, it's good to meet someone else who's not afraid of a little bloody steak. We ought to conduct a survey of editors' steak preferences and petition Jimbo Wales to ban all those who chose well done, after all, how can someone who exercises such poor judgment as to like well done steak be trusted to make good edits?;)> I wish I could take credit, but I didn't create the category, just tweaked the language. Glad you stopped by--you know it's nice to get a message from someone just saying howdy. --Fuhghettaboutit 03:32, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tongoy

Hi! I've seen your work in the Tongoy page, and I find it faboulus. I'm the principal writer of the spanish wiki article of Tongoy, and i want to say thank's for your work. Keep in that way. Salu2 --Rakela 20:24, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

PS: Sorry by my english, it's owfoul.

Hola! Your English is pretty damn good. I'm glad you found the article and like it. I don't like to do things in half-measures and tried to translate with fidelity and into flowing English, along with providing extra research so that an English speaking audience will understand terms that are assumed to be known by Spanish speakers. If your English is good enough to follow along with the article, and I don't know that it is, I would appreciate it if you could review the article for factual accuracy. I tried hard, but my Spanish is not great either and there were certain passages that I may have gotten something confused about. If you find any mistakes, you could either change them yourself, or if you don't trust your English abilities enough to make the changes (which I would of course help with, by reviewing for English fluidity) you can post all necessary changes here. This is the heart of Wikipedia. A good article on a town in Chile that would never make it into a regular English Encyclopedia text. Glad to meet you! --Fuhghettaboutit 21:21, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

I forgot. I also made a couple of smaller articles by translating them so I could make good links in this article--I also translated and made: Víctor Domingo Silva, Guanaqueros and Cordillera de Talinay. It would be a great thing if you could look at look at those translations as well if you are up to it. --Fuhghettaboutit 21:27, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, I forgot to tell you that I see the linked articles and they are very good also... I don't mek the changes because you put a banner asking for not to modify the article until you finish to work in it, but what you tell me now, made me free to make the changes. If you need something, spetialy with translation, don't be afraid to ask me. ;) By! Rakela 20:23, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Post-quem

Hellow my effortful friend

I need to explain that the words post-quem aren't a geologist term but a latin expression, a latinism, thats means "posterior". I used this words for express that something is like a milestone that provides a reference time. For instance, the French Revolution (1789) is a time reference for the last historical epoch. Our times are post-quem; in opposite, the Medieval epoch is ante-quem.

I hope, that I has able to be clear. You know. Thanks --Locutus Borg Image:Logo-Borg.gif, Talk to me 23:15, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for helping expand the article The Holy. eisenhower ^U ^T ^C ^E^Q

^{You are most welcome.--Fuhghettaboutit 01:25, 30 April 2006 (UTC)}

^{[edit] Thanks for reverting}

^{Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. Strange that the anon user has come out of wiki-retirement to attempt to insult me The JPS ^{talk to me} 20:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)}

You're welcome. I was in the midst of replying to your reply when I saw it:-)

[edit] Thanks for editing

Thanks for all the clarification and stylistic edits you've made on the Halloween (film) and Halloween II (film) articles. You've been a big help! (How about looking at Halloween III: Season of the Witch if you get the chance?) Dmoon1 22:11, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. I edit all over the place, but I think I get the most satisfaction out of taking really good prose, in a really good article (please take a bow), and just tweaking a word here and a sentence there, hopefully to make it better. I will take a look at Halloween III. --Fuhghettaboutit 22:16, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

You do the dirty work that I hate (proofreading) and it is much appreciated. Regarding Halloween III, I removed the aside from the plot because it did interrupt the flow. I have been trying to say somewhere in the article that the only reference to the original Halloween in this movie is that Halloween is airing on television the night that the Silver Shamrock commercial is supposed to play (the commercial airs right after the movie ends), but I can't get it to fit anywhere in the article very well. Do you have any suggestions? Dmoon1 23:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I took a stab at it, in first paragraph under production section. Please review. Does that work? Is it accurate?--Fuhghettaboutit 00:00, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

It still sounds a tad bit awkward, but it's definitely better. Dmoon1 05:23, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

It's very awkward. The word halloween appears in the sentence far too many times, Uggg. Ill try to think of a better way.--Fuhghettaboutit 22:40, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Horror

I've noticed your edits to horror-related articles. Dmoon1 and I are thinking of starting a Horror WikiProject. Would you be interested in helping with something like this? Please see User:Myleslong/WikiProject Horror for a temporary project page. Thanks for your time. --Myles Long 19:31, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like a great idea. I'm there.--Fuhghettaboutit 21:30, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I was surprised and honored by your message. Your generous offer to help me here may turn into a full-time job for you. I received notification that I had a message, but I required another forty-five minutes' fumbling before I successfully read it. Thank you for your technical -- as well as artistic -- expertise in more attractively formatting the book page. That was my first attempt here and I do appreciate, not only your help, but your not laughing out loud at me. -- David Mills

Ha! If you could see the attempts of many newcomers here on their first article... There's a lot to know here about the technical aspects of things--placing pages in appropriate categories, stub tags, wiki formatting, image markup, copyright tagging, article style convention and the numerous policies that are taken into consideration in article treatment, to name a few. A really good place to start is the Wikipedia:Tutorial. Again, if you have a technical (or other) issue, feel free to ask me. By the way, you signed you post to me by typing your name out. An easier and more useful way of signing posts is to type four tildes (~~~~). This automatically formats your username as a clickable link and leaves a date and time stamp. I am responding to you on my user talk page, but I am also placing this on your user talk page so you get the "you have new messages" notification. I find this site utterly addictive (and a noble venture) and have pretty much stopped posting at iidb. Responding for the umpteenth time to--"you people just hate god," or "how can evolution be true--no human has ever given birth to a monkey" was starting to give me agita.--Fuhghettaboutit 16:02, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spanish Translations

Outstanding work on single-handedly translating the Cao Yu article at WP:SPATRA; that's a long article, and you've done a clean job. Just be careful not too burn yourself out like so many others, but you've been around long enough I'm probably preaching to the choir. I've been impressed while poking around your userpage especially the translation section. Let me know if you ever need any kind of hand on your Spanish/English work, I'd be glad to help. - Draeco 19:20, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words. I enjoy translating from Spanish. My Spanish is not very fluent and I am hoping it will get better through translation. I find that a lot of translations end up sounding awkward because the original grammar never truly gets converted to English. I think to some extent it's an advantage to have to struggle, because without glib fluency, I am better able to convert the text completely to English syntax, and writing in English is what I do for a living. On the help front, this might be too much to ask, but I was just stumped with some parts of the translation of Trabancos River. The article is an artículos destacados, and is chock full of obscure (to me) geology and archeology terms. The main author of the Spanish article has been helping out with corrections. However, he also translated a number of sections but his English isn't great, and the sections were so garbled that in my attempt to turn them into English, I may have lost some of the meaning. Maybe you could take a look at the translation and see if there are any problems in the geology section translations? There are also a number of passages that remain untranslated (untranslated text appears in the article awaiting help). --Fuhghettaboutit 23:47, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Your remark, "...the original grammar never truly gets converted to English" puzzles me (as a full-time translator active in the Hebrew-English community). What do you think of this guideline for successful translation: "Your task is to fully comprehend the text as written in the source language, and then to accurately express its meaning in the target language." The part about the source text, by the way, allows a competent writer to translate from a foreign language even without full command of the FL. I certainly do so myself! Deborahjay 00:46, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

No your misinterpreting what I'm saying and I may have spoken without perfect clarity. Of course a professional translator strives to translate completely. I'm referring to the fact that you'll find many translated articles here, done by those fluent in both languages but not adept enough in writing to take the meaning and completely change into English, or not fluent enough in English to know that the translator's task does not end at translating the words and idioms, and sometimes just not done with the care necessary to translate with fidelity. So what you get is sentences that have the correct English words, but the arrangement screams the other language's grammar rules. I also see many where the translation is just completely wrong. A translated article I looked at recently contained the word courtesans over and over, when what was meant was courtiers (ha!).--Fuhghettaboutit 01:04, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, perhaps not misinterpreting, but certainly my alarm was misplaced; thanks for the thoughtful clarification. The unwanted interference of source-language grammar artifacts influencing the target writing you describe, is what we (he>en xlators) call the "Heblish effect" -- the remedy for which generally involves first doing a strictly literal translation, having this approved by the author or au's agent (as many Hebrew speakers have excellent reading knowledge of English, a boon to their translators), then editing the product into native English with the target readership in mind. Works for me!

I love your "courtesans/courtiers" example. More truth than poetry there, perhaps... as in, "A [whore] by any other name..."!

The prospect of translating as well as editing in Wikipedia is highly motivating. I'll be glad for your advice from time to time, but please be patient as my learning curve is depressed by sheer lack of available time to devote to this at present. Deborahjay 01:15, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

A professional translator? Don't be surprised if I ask you a question or two from time to time. Feel free to come to me with any technical questions. However, you strike me as a person that picks up things blindingly fast. --Fuhghettaboutit 01:23, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reminder

When using template tags on talk pages, don't forget to substitute with text by adding subst: to the template tag. For example, use {{subst:test}} instead of {{test}}. This reduces server load and prevents accidental blanking of the template.

— Ian Manka Talk to me‼ 03:01, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

While it's certainly valuable to remind people of substituting templates, I'm not sure doing so mechanically is advisable. By analogy, while it's great to leave welcome templates on new user pages, I always think you should look at their contributions before deciding which template is right, how to personalize etc. As someone with hundreds and hundreds of substituted templates under my belt, being mechanically reminded of one I missed with a template, I must confess, I find slightly irksome. Sorry if that comes across as harsh, but I imagine that some others, similarly situated, might feel the same --Fuhghettaboutit 04:08, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Phantasm

Never seen Phantasm before. Must be good judging by its plot. I can see films like A Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th being future horror collaborations, and books like Dracula and Frankenstein. I don't really know how to improve film articles be honest, because I have never made hefty contributions to any film article. So far my horror contributions have been limited to adding info boxes and uploading movie posters to horror articles. Could you outline how you would set out the article (if it becomes horror collaboration of the month)? LuciferMorgan 11:21, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I always find that a great way to start any article is by looking at a sterling example in the area. See Halloween (film) to see the organization and form of a great film article. Phantasm is really a classic but it may be hard to work up any enthusiasm if you've never seen it (it's worth seeing if you are a horror fan, not the least for its cult appeal). There are cheesy parts--let's not forget this is a low budget 70s horror flick, but some of the images, the music--it made a deep impression. I myself have never done a great deal of work on bringing a movie article to high polish from beginnings, concentrating in other areas. It was only after editing the three excellent Halloween articles mostly written by Dmoon1 (two of which are featured articles) that WikiProject horror was set up by Myles Long who invited me to join. The HCOTM was set up by me only last week, so the whole project is just finding its legs. The more that can contribute the better.--Fuhghettaboutit 11:32, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fuhghettaboutit

Thanks for the spelling fix and I'm Italian. ;-) hydnjo talk 23:55, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I think your spelling is more authentic, but I settled on this one long ago in another forum where the alternate spellings were unavailable. You said "should I just Fuhghettaboutit," and I was agreeing:-)--Fuhghettaboutit 01:10, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Phantasm Reply

Even though I haven't seen this film, I would like to contribute to this article and help. My writing skills are fine, the only thing I find a pain are the referencing parts because I have a rubbish library nearby. If you wish to collaborate on the Phantasm film then I will help. The first thing to add would be the plot. Message me back on my talk page. LuciferMorgan 04:56, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

This would be my first attempt also at a horror article major write up as my areas of concentration have been elsewhere. I nominated this article as the movie made such an impression on me when I first saw it and it's fairly well known, but I'm now second guessing the choice. Maybe the first article should be on a very well known film so that others can get involved while the project is finding its legs. In any case contribute any way you can or wish.--Fuhghettaboutit 05:14, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Phantasm Re-reply

You could be right. The only very very well known horror films that spring to mind are Evil Dead, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Exorcist, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street and so on. The Halloween article would be a good layout to use though for an article. I just hope someone can give major help with the referencing, DMoon1 seems a master at referencing. Even if Phantasm doesn't get nominated, I still wouldn't mind helping you with a major write up of it though. We don't have to wait to see if it becames the Horror Collaboration, we could start whenever if you like. I notice there is an article on a sentinel sphere which is Phantasm related, which could maybe benefit from a picture to illustrate it. Tell me when you wish to begin on Phantasm, and then we'll go from there. We should start with the plot I reckon. Message back sometime. LuciferMorgan 05:53, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to wait until the film has been selected (probably on the 23rd) to begin anything on the article, because another may still be chosen and I'd like to see it work after being officially designated the collaboration. Also the diff we post after the month of collaboration (the see improvements edit difference in {{HCOTM}}) will be better if it includes all changes made after selection as the HCOTM (don't let that stop you of course from going ahead). --Fuhghettaboutit 17:07, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Phantasm Re-re-Reply

I can see your point. If the article is more modest when made the collaboration of the month it could encourage more to contribute. I'll wait until the 23rd too, and contribute elsewhere at the moment. It could work though because there seems to be a lot online for Phantasm. I'll try slowly editing out those trivia sections in some articles by working them into the actual article. I hate those trivia sections with a vengeance lol. LuciferMorgan 19:20, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of billionaires (2005) rvv

DAMN IT. you beat me. :) ~a (user • talk • contribs) 11:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Ha! Fastest handtyped revert in the West--Fuhghettaboutit 14:17, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:"that article"

Thanks for the offer! Actually, I prodded the article last night after the initial opinions came in, but it was "mysteriously" removed by an anon user. Thus it's now the new contestant on AfD. I do get a kick out of talking about "that" article with someone who uses Fuhghettaboutit as their username. I can only imagine the awesome editing conversations: "Hey, you take care of that thing?" "What? --oh, you mean that thing?" "Nah, the other thing." "Oh that, yeah --it's been done." Heh, sweet. --Bobak 16:17, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

LOL! well, not for nothing but, you know, you gotta do a little something or how you gonna earn your cannoli? Anyway, it's good to hear you took care of that thing we discussed the other day in that place. Hopefully you won't have to take it the mattresses, you know what I'm saying? --Fuhghettaboutit 20:42, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome template question

I saw the welcome you placed on User talk:SkylineEvo and was quite impressed: is that template available anywhere ? TIA Sandy 11:25, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi Sandy. How's everything? Isn't that template great? It's {{welcomeg}}, and yes it's generally available for use. I like it much better than the other welcome templates. When using it, pipe your signature using tildes after the name (and of course always substitute), like this {{subst:welcomeg|~~~~}} :-)--Fuhghettaboutit 12:39, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Muchísimas gracias ... tanto pa'prender! Sandy 23:08, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

De nada; no hay de qué--Fuhghettaboutit 23:19, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Presas

(hay...pequeñas presas construidas en el río Eresma ideales para bañarse en verano.) I think your interpretation of "coves" is pretty good, but you might get an even better translation using "dams" and "lakes." Presas would be translated "Dams" literally, but you're right to assume an idiom, because logically the people don't bathe in the dams per se. I've never visited the es:Sierra de Guadarrama, but I'm guessing from the context that the entire river is dammed with successive little dams, rather than making little coves off to the side. So maybe it would be better to say "there are successive man-made dams that create small lakes (or ponds or even pools) perfect for bathing in the summer." - Draeco 16:34, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I'm going to make the change as you suggested. --Fuhghettaboutit 23:45, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: thanks for moving nn-warn

No problem :-)

[edit] Thank you Newbie Helper!

I, DanielBC, award Fuhghettaboutit a smiley for helping me as a newbie. Cheers mate!

You're welcome, and thanks for the smiley:-)--Fuhghettaboutit 22:02, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Alright thanks. Wont happen again. user:slapslapslap

[edit] Trabancos River

Great Job!

Thanks for the complete an brilliant translation

Oh! And I like much your image of Sisyphus, I am very identify with he ;)

--Locutus Borg Image:Logo-Borg.gif, Talk to me 22:29, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I had some help, from both you and another user! It still needs some work with the language but I hope to take it to a peer review process at some point. I'm glad you like it and thanks for the brilliant compliment!--Fuhghettaboutit 22:49, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on editing! Twenex 22:49, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome--Fuhghettaboutit 22:51, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] subst:welcomeg

Hiya! I was loitering around in the toolkit, watching people make edits (well, watching for vandalism and other nastiness, really) and one of your edit summaries caught my eye:

User User:Fuhghettaboutit copyvio? User talk:Mm1983 (4447) "subst:welcomeg"

While it's absolutely wonderful to welcome people, when they (eventually) learn to check the page history, it might be a little disheartening to learn that the welcome message they got was cookie-cutter. This is just my opinion on the matter, of course, but might I suggest using "Welcome to Wikipedia!" or "Welcoming our brand new editor!" instead?

If you'd like, I've got a personal {{welcomeg}} that I use: User:Kylu/welcome, I like the fact that it's custom and shows that I'm personally putting some effort into welcoming users. If you like it (well, other than the graphic and color scheme, they might be a little too girly for you? :D) you're welcome to it! I doubt you need help in editing the template, from what I see of your userpage, and certainly you've got a mass more seniority here than I do, but if you'd like help translating the weird markup I used, please ask. :)

Take care!

~Kylu (u|t) 04:26, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey Kylu. Thanks for the thoughtful message. Yeah, I would definitely need to change it navy blue and put a muscle car where the heart is (hee). Actually, I've thought about making a personal welcome template and modeling it off of welcomeg but it's never struck me as vital. The thing is, if it's your own template, it's still a template. The important part for me, is that when someone sees the part in that template (other any other welcome template) about feeling free to ask me on my talk page for help and they do so, then they get a full personal response and whatever help I can offer. I guess what I'm saying is that the welcomeg is akin to form letter (with lots of useful information), while a personal welcome template is still a form letter but which you personally signed—I'm not sure the difference is that vast when the text is still the same for each person you welcome with it, after all you didn't do anything personalized with respect to that person or any action of that person. I think you're right though that I should reform my edit summaries. Maybe that's the way to make it even more personal than a personalized welcome template could: leave an edit summary like "Again, welcome, and if you need any help feel to drop me a message on my talk page." Oh by the way, I'm sure it makes sense and I'm just missing it, but I'm befuddled by the part of your message about my name and "copyvio?". Feel free to drop me a message anytime.--Fuhghettaboutit 05:28, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HCOTM

Thanks for letting me know, I've registered my vote for JC. Been putting a bit more work into WP lately, so I'll be happy to collaborate on an article. Geoff B 23:48, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Great! Hopefully by midnight we'll have a clear winner. Thanks for the quick response.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:56, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Good call on messaging the WikiHorror participants, we don't seem to have many voting for the collaboration out of the two dozen or so members we have. Geoff B 01:41, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding the collaboration vote

Hey thanks for the warm reception and invite! I voted for Carpenter just because I do have a soft spot for The Thing and Starman. Say do you guys do books too? I am somewhat shocked (alright just slightly bothered) to see how short the article is on the Exorcist, my all-time favorite horror novel. Plus, no entry for Salem's Lot the tv movie?! Here I was working on wikipedia articles that are, you know, about reality and discover that all this great stuff is not even covered or badly covered. As for future collaborations, I think these two rank pretty high. Anyway, once the voting done, I'll do my bit to help inform the general public about all the great entertainment that they should read about here first! Heh heh. Tombseye 06:09, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar - 12984 edits

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		I hereby award this Tireless Contributor Barnstar to Fuhghettaboutit for his 12984 edits!!!! Benjaminstewart05 17:54, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey Benjamin! Thank you for the award, and live action too--I can just feel that throwing star rotating through the air as it arcs toward my neck. --Fuhghettaboutit 12:25, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] David Pittman

Hi, I'm a bit puzzled by this one. I remember the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael John Ainsworth incident (can visualise the picture in the article!). Ainswrrth was added to the Western Suburbs Magpies by the user 203.213.7.130 and I deleted the reference. But I can find no evidence that this user had anything to do with a David Pittman article and I have no memory of such an article. Maybe some random coincidence? The new article seems OK on first investigation. Dlyons493 Talk 08:20, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

I was puzzled too--why would such a different name be a redirect to that article? and since it made my watchlist and was just created, it had to be previously deleted. Oh well. Sometimes mysterious things happen with the software although I'm imagining it is something like this: I placed a speedy tag on David Pittman, probably a db-empty because I would never nominate the current article's text for deletion. Mailer diablo then deleted Michael John Ainsworth followed by David Pittman but made an error in attribution with a copy and paste function. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit 08:32, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the warning about ianchatham. I'll put him on my watchlist so I can monitor his contributions, and advise/warn/block in sequence if necessary. jimfbleak 16:24, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm wiondering though if the massive, nonsense talk page edits should be reverted.--Fuhghettaboutit 16:27, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiLove!

Here's a pizza for you! Pizzas promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving something friendly to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others using Template:smile! Happy editing! LINUXERIST@ ~~~~~

[edit] John Carpenter

Thanks! I wasn't sure if I was supposed to respond on my talk page or yours. Anyway, it's my pleasure!

Sullenspice 22:31, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

With regard to where to respond--there is no set policy or even recommendation. Personally I believe that discussions should be able to be followed in one place, so once I say something on someone's talk page I always monitor there for a while, but others, probably correctly, believe that since leaving a comment on another's talk page gives them the "you have new messages" alert, it's always better to respond there; I split the baby by posting to both. If you have an technical editing problems as a newcomer (or for anything else), please feel free to drop me a line.--Fuhghettaboutit

Thank you from yesterday. Chris 20:07, 29 May 2006 (UTC) (moved from my userpage--Fuhghettaboutit)

You're welcome--Fuhghettaboutit 23:10, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Steve Van Wormer

Great minds think alike! :-D Thanks for your cleanup efforts, and the IMDB link. Cheers, FreplySpang 16:00, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the message! Your edits very closely resemble the ones I had attempted; "gmta" indeed. --Fuhghettaboutit 16:12, 3

June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Thing

I'm the one who was just editing The Thing. I had forgotten to log in!

Sullenspice 19:53, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

LOL! Yeah it was too constructive an edit for most ips (in my experience). Sorry for welcoming you! --Fuhghettaboutit 20:12, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem. I have a bad habit of occasionally forgetting to log in. Most of the edits I've made on Wikipedia are probably credited to the 4.172.... or 4.173.... ip rather than my account.

Sullenspice 20:17, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Werder

The city-town thing is a bit confusing, because the definitions in English and in German (Stadt) don't match exactly. A place with a town charter is called Stadt in German, and town or city in English. For categories, all towns bigger than 100,000 inhabitants are called "city" (see Category:Cities in Germany), all places smaller than 100,000, with or without town charter, are called "town". Actually towns over 100,000 are called Großstadt in German. The Brandenburg template shows districts and district-free cities/towns. Werder isn't district-free. Markussep 23:21, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Hmm hi I post an artical about some ideas such as Planor energy and Phillip Browning. The reason why no searches were found was due to that all this information is new and this is the first time it is being released. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mathforms05 (talk • contribs) .

Here's the thing: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It's not a primary source or even a secondary source. Encyclopedia articles are on subjects already well known--the standard is notability. I don't quite understand, are you Philip Brown, is he someone you know? He may be important, but for an encyclopedia he must be recognized as important by primary sources out in the world.--Fuhghettaboutit 01:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IRAS Disambiguation

Fuhghettaboutit, I have a newbie question. Since you were kind enough to leave me a welcome note, I am directing it at you. I want to create a disambiguation page for the IRAS (Indian Railways Accounts Service) but the entry for the IRAS is a full article and not a redirection. How does one fix this. Do we normally move the article to an article with the full name? Rajat Bhargav

Hi Rajat. I see the problem. You need the IRAS name for the disambiguation name, but it is the article on Infrared Astronomical Satellite. As I see it, you have a couple of options. First, you can ask for an administrator to move the article IRAS to its full name, Infrared Astronomical Satellite, using the fact that articles should normally be under their full names, as well as the need for the IRAS disambiguation page as a basis. Normally you could just do that move yourself, but you need an administrator to make a move of a page where the page being moved to already exists, as is the case here (the software won't allow you to make a move where the destination is already taken). Note that you should never perform a move like this by hand, i.e. cutting and pasting the text of IRAS into its full name so you free up the page. By doing so, the article under the new name would lose its edit history. It's also always a good idea to seek consensus before making controversial page moves.

In order to request the move, you would follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Basically, it involves listing the requested move at that page with your rationale, and placing a template on the talk page of the existing article for IRAS which notes that you are requesting the move at Wikipedia:Requested moves, and duplicating your rationale text. If the article is moved after consensus is reached, then IRAS will become a redirect that you can make into the disambiguation page. Your second option is to simply place a header on the existing article for IRAS in the form found at Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Disambiguation links. This is certainly the easier option. It would look something like this (and see this in edit mode for the code I used):

This page is about the astronomical satellite. For the Government of India department which administers the finances of Indian railways, see Indian Railway Accounts Service.

This would at least inform people of this other use of the acronym IRAS. I also think you should move all of of your acronym articles to their full titles, the way I did to IRIMEE. If you don't know, when you move a page, it automatically make the prior name of the article a redirect to the new name, so you don't have to worry about making the redirects by hand (this is also the reason the software won't allow you to move a page where both names already exist). I hope all this helps. Cheers. --Fuhghettaboutit 15:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the excellent and detailed explanation. Will do the needful. Rajat Bhargav 20:12, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Carpenter Redux

Since you have been the other primary contributor to the JC article, I thought I'd let you know about the limitations of what I can contribute, so that other sections can be taken up by different contributors.

The JC films that I can write about with some authority are ASOP 13, The Fog, and The Thing. I've written about all three, and I still need to slightly expand, fine-tune, and add refs. to the latter two. I'll continue to edit, and I can clean up other contributor's prose if need be, but I think I've just about reached my limit for adding content.

Sullenspice 13:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

Thanks for that. I've been folowing that user's edits but didn't see that one. Thank you, Yanksox 04:19, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Wow, I feel slow, but I learned a new term. Yanksox 04:21, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Great. By the way--you are the quickest archivist I've ever seen---I was going to post something on your talk page regarding these responses, as I went to bed before I could respond last night--poof, already archived.--Fuhghettaboutit 11:57, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MyOODB

Fuhghettaboutit I am the owner of MyOODB copyright. I am also a newbie to how to create wiki. I believe how I created MyOODB wiki was ok.

As is stated in the copyright notice on the article, if you hold the copyright to this material, please indicate so on the article's talk page and under the article's listing on Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2006 June 10/Articles. That will inform the reviewing administrator of your concern. I invite you to review Wikipedia:Copyright problems which states in relevant part that:

Copyright owners who submitted their own work to Wikipedia: If you submitted work to Wikipedia which you had previously published (especially online), and your submission was marked as a potential infringement of copyright, stating that you are the copyright holder of the work on the article's talk page helps, but will not likely prevent deletion. It is sufficient to:

Make a note permitting reuse under the GFDL at the site of the original publication.
Send an email from an address associated with the original publication to permissions at wikimedia dot org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation.

On a separate front, even if the article had no copyright violation, I would likely have proposed it for deletion. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a free advertisement service. The criteria we use is notability, as in the subjects of articles must be notable. Please review What Wikipedia is not; especially the section on Wikipedia not being a soapbox. As far as I can tell, your product may be useful or even brilliant, but it is not notable enough to be included in an encyclopedia. Your website/the software name only returns 130 unique google hits, for instance, as one test of notability.--Fuhghettaboutit 20:56, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Fuhghettaboutit I understand. My apologies. I am not trying to push MyOODB, its simple a tool that I thought fit in wiki since I saw other type tools here. I understand notable. I will request MyOODB for removal. Please note however that when I search google for "object-oriented database & web services", MyOODB often is the third link.

Thanks and Regards...

Thanks for unsderstanding. Best of luck.--Fuhghettaboutit 21:21, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Fuhghettaboutit, my apologies but one more question. How long does it take to take down the article? The copyright violation page when searching give the impression that I have done something really wrong. I would really like to see it removed.

[edit] Artentainment

Moved to AFD. Ral315 (talk) 05:57, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] stop this vandal please

205.188.117.6 "BEATLEWILL" This user has repetedly used a main article page to use it for a forum to rant his "opinions" (not facts) - it has already been reverted to the talk or discussion page where is belongs by a wise monitor/editor. But he refuses to take heed and puts up the same "disputes" and "opinion pieces" on a main subject page. THis is esp. true for the article on ART LORIA where the article shows his contributions to the music industry and is sourced, referenced and cited and properly formated.

Then 205.188.117.6 "BEATLEWILL" will come along and deface the article and rant about his opinions on his particular taste in music. Seems that because Mr. Loria was a "DOO WOP" performer, this vandal who has a more un-flattering for that genre of music, rather would share his opionin of the Beatles instead. BEATLEWILL even calims to be a spokesperson foe the Beatles and offers statements on what Yoko Ono or Psul McCartney would have to say. This is a disgrace! But totally acceptable if placed in the right forum. He has been corrected officially once, warned several times, but his banter continues.

That is is right and opinion of course - we just ask that he not be allowed to deface and disgrace an article main page in doing so. It takes away from the integrity of the music, theartist and WIKIPEDIA. Please follow the history of this user and look into this matter / complaint I have discussd. I'm doing research for a book and this is getting quite annoying. I'm not interested in his opinions of the Beatles, I'm interested in certain Doo Wop artists - it is greatly appriciated.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Doowopoldies1 (talk • contribs) .

I see you asked this question of a number of other editors. As they advised, that ip is assigned to AOL and has multiple users. Others have also stated they will monitor the ip for vandalism, including an administrator. Unfortunately, it is sometimes difficult to deal with ip addresses that are registered to multiple users.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:43, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA/Gurch

Hi again! Thanks for the support, and I'm glad to hear the spreadsheet turned out to be useful – Gurch 17:16, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jesse Kramer

Thx. It's not G4 as both previous deletions were speedies. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 06:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spanish

Hi F, thanks again for helping with the cookie, I do hope he gets a warm fuzzy glow :) I'd be happy to help with your project if I can! As you no doubt noticed, I'm currently lacking both experience and confidence. Assisting a more experienced editor in an area where I can't screw up too bad seems like a great way to get started. I'll review the translation and get back to you, but it's dinner-time here, hopefully followed with some Quality Family Time, so please don't hold your breath waiting for me :) Happy Editing! Doc Tropics 23:32, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. I would love it if you reviewed the article for errors but note that some text has been modified and added to with outside research. I wasn't necessarily requesting this however; rather I was hoping to add you to my list of people to call on if I get into trouble with difficult passages in the future. I just posted the article as an example of translation efforts.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:41, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your NCH reply on searching edit history for text

...though the prospect seems daunting! First, though, I'll wait a few days for possible follow-up on the Discussion in which I raised the problematic matter. Even if the original editor doesn't respond, someone else might make a pertinent contribution and I'll be able to proceed with the edit I have in mind. -- Deborahjay 01:40, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi again Deborahjay. Always glad to lend a hand. Cheers!--Fuhghettaboutit 03:30, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I can't believe

...I forgot to log in before adding (minor) content to the Siberian iris. D'oh! Should I correct this, and if so...how? Doc Tropics 18:49, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry about it at all (and it happens to us all ocassionally). Ips are allowed to edit as well. There is no way to correct it—you can't reallocate edits. However, if you make an additional change to that article, and you want to claim ownership of your prior anonymous edits, simply place in the edit summary (after noting your current changes, of course)--something like "Note unrelated to this edit: previous edits by 123.45.678 were by me as well, while not logged in." --Fuhghettaboutit 21:17, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Fuhg. Next time I add to that article I'll add the note you suggested as well :) Doc Tropics 22:45, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I may point you to AGF

Since you enjoy pointing out policies, I recommend you read WP:AGF If you don't want to have a discussion in a place you may not want to start one there. --Crossmr 03:23, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

No, I don't enjoy pointing out policies. However, when a user makes an obvious assumption of bad faith, and bites a newcomer, which however much you stridently want to defend by not letting this useless debate end at the help desk, it was, I think they need to be informed of the policy—especially when they appear to be a new user, as you do. The irony of you pointing me to WP:AGF by not assuming your assumption of bad faith with a newcomer on their first post was in good faith is quite amusing!.--Fuhghettaboutit 03:41, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I was pointing out caution. There is a difference. You chose to make the comment about it in that space. You could have left your comment and made a comment on my talk page if you felt WP:BITE needed to be pointed out to me. --Crossmr 03:54, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

No, you stated your belief in no uncertain terms that the user was lying. I'm trying to see how that can be characterized as pointing out caution. However, I agree with you that it would have been better if I had commented on your talk page.--Fuhghettaboutit 03:59, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I said "I don't believe..." I didn't say "An NBC producer wouldn't use an AOL address" I made it very clear in my first statement that it was just my belief. --Crossmr 04:05, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

either way I'm sure we both learned a lesson for next time. --Crossmr 04:08, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

		The Editor's Barnstar
		For the finest AFD Nomination I have ever seen, GREAT JOB! Aeon 13:44, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Woohoo! Thanks!--Fuhghettaboutit 22:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Not a prob, you rock! Aeon 02:47, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re Lope de Barrientos

A ver cómo te lo explico.

Batalla de Olmedo (hubo varias, ásta es de 1445): derrota de Juan II de Navarra, muere su hermano Fadrique en la batalla, retirada
Muere la reina de Navarra (1445), su esposo Juan II es rey consorte, no tiene derecho a heredar. Pero desea el trono. Se olvida de Castilla y se centra en Navarra
El hijo de la reina, pero no de Juan II, es el Príncipe Carlos de Viana, era el auténtico heredero, pero tenía pocos seguidores
Guerra Civil en Navarra entre Juan II y el Príncipe de Viana. Alvaro de Luna decide ayudar al de Viana para debilitar a Juan II.
Juan II debe impedir que Castilla ayude al de Viana y ataca Cuenca en 1449 porque un amigo está dispuesto a ayudarle (Cuenca hace frontera con Aragón, en poder del hermano de Juan II)

Ten en cuenta que reunir ejércitos costaba años de preparativos, más en Aragón y Navarra, por el poder de las cortes sobre el rey.

Si no lo entiendes en Español intentaré escribirlo en inglés (sorry, but I had some work now and write in englis its hard to me)

Ah! Congratulations for the fully deserved Barnstar--Locutus Borg Image:Logo-Borg.gif, Talk to me 22:46, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Night of the Living Dead

Hey, I've been working on the Night of the Living Dead article for some time now. Would you mind looking over it whenever you get the chance? Thanks. Dmoon1 04:34, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Of course. My pleasure. As always, looks like you're doing a bang up job.--Fuhghettaboutit 08:46, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nomination of Lope de Barrientos

May I vote in the nomination?

and, How? --Locutus Borg Image:Logo-Borg.gif, Talk to me 15:49, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Lamentablemente no. Wikipedia:Good articles (articulos bueno) es muy diferente que Wikipedia:Featured articles (Artículos destacados). Más fácil conseguir estacion bueno, pero más fácil perder también; un redactor con experiencia examina el artículo y lo pasa o lo falla (ninguna votación), entonces alguien puede quitar "bueno el estacion." Véase Wikipedia:Good articles/Nominations para más información.--Fuhghettaboutit 17:16, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oops

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa - he caught me at a bad moment. The sentiment is still apt, however. Natgoo 20:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)