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[edit] Old comments on suggestion to merge with frock coat

[edit] Disagree

Both frock and frock coat are thorough articles describing items of dress that were considered quite separate by the people who work them (and are so considered by costume historians). - PKM 20:35, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disagree

The frock is more the historical precursor of the dress coat or tail coat worn with white tie.

The frock coat emerged later in the 19th century and is quite distinct from the frock in its form and shape.

Just because the 'frock' sounds like the 'frock coat' does little to change the fact that they are quite historically distinct garments irrespective of whatever tenuous historical relationship may exist between them. It would be a severe mistake on historical grounds to merge the two together. If you were to do this you might also insist on merging articles on white tie and the frock on the grounds that tail coats are historically related to the frock. In fact it would make more sense to do this than merge articles on the frock and frock coat. In other languages the names for the frock and the frock coat are quite distinct further demonstrating that the similarity in names is merely coincidental. Sator 10 December 2006 —The preceding Sator comment was added by Sator (talkcontribs) 16:34, 9 December 2006

[edit] Remove merge request

I have removed the requuset to merge with frock coat since it has been posted since July 2006 with no support. - PKM 18:12, 17 December 2006 (UTC)