Talk:Fritz Kreisler

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Austrian army, or Austria-Hungarian? -- Ortonmc

All the sources I've looked at (including one by Kreisler himself that I'm just going to externally linking from the article) just call it the "Austrian army", but I guess it would have served Austro-Hungary. I don't know - that bit of history isn't something I know anything much about. --Camembert

I'm not an expert on the subject either. I suppose there might have been separate Austrian & Hungarian armies. Let's leave it as it is unless other info turns up. -- Ortonmc

For whatever it matters: Kreisler was in fourth battalion, Company 16 of the 3rd Army corps of the Imperial and Royal Austro-Hungarian army (according to Lochner)

There's a Hungarian mens' dance called the verbunk (the best example is from Szatmar, or Satu Mare in Romanian); we were told by Zoltan Zsurafszky (a dance professional from Hungary) that recruiters got men in the Hungarian villages liquored up, then watched them dance to judge their physical condition and coordination. The best/most agile dancers were drafted into the Austro-Hungarian army. --MgFrobozz

[edit] Spanish text removed

I removed this additions (from jego38 (talk · contribs)) text from the article. - Skysmith 19:16, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Fritz Kreisler (1875 - 1962) Era un compositor y violinista Austriaco, quizá uno de los mas famosos de su época. Kreisler nació en Vienna. Estudió en el conservatorio de Paris y también el de Vienna, con profesores como Delibes, Joseph Hellmesberger Jr., Joseph Massart y Jules Massenet. Hizo su primer tour por América entre 1888 y 1889 con el pianista Moriz Rosenthal, luego regresó a Austria a conseguir un puesto en la Orquesta Filarmónica de Vienna, pero fué rechazado. Se dedicó después de esto a estudiar medicina y luego pintura. De hecho se enlistó en la armada antes de volver a tocar violín en 1899, durante un concierto con la filarmónica de Berlin, bajó la conducción de Arthur Nikish. Este sería el concierto que le daría reconocimiento internaciona, junto con algunas giras por Norte América entre 1901 y 1903.

What makes you say that Kreisler was born in a Jewish family? Neither of the 2 biographies, by Lochner and Biancolli, supports this.

It should also be mentioned that the Guarneri (Del Gesu) instrument he used for most of his career became known as the "Kreisler" . Why just mention the that the Bergonzi took on his name? I believe that the Kreisler is in a state of preservation in the Smithsonian Institute in Whashington.

[edit] The Posthumous Waltzes

I have read in a book on frauds that some time during the 1900's Kreisler gave a concert in Berlin(?) (I'm going to have to recheck the source to confirm this). Part of the line up included the Caprice Viennois and four pieces entitled Posthumous Waltzes and attributed to Joseph Lanner, but in fact written by Kreisler. The story is that one of the critics praised the waltzes but slammed Kreizler for using them to bracket the Caprice Viennois which was referred to as a mere 'salon piece'. Kreisler is then supposed to have responded with a letter in which he confessed to writing both the waltzes and the caprice. This story might be worth running down. Graham1973 (talk) 16:19, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kreisler: Painter?

I'm reading an old biography of Fritz that my violin teacher gave me to study, and it has a direct quote from Fritz stating that, "My inability even to draw a map should dispose once and for all of the rumor that I studied painting under Julien of Paris....I have not painted a picture in my life." So the claim that he studied painting should probably be removed, despite contradictory evidence from other sources. This biography was by Louis P. Lochner, published by The MacMillan Company of New York in 1951, OCLC #150221699.

This book also seems to have Fritz debunking a lot of myths about himself. If I see any others I'll let you know...Coandcam08 (talk) 01:43, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll take the "Painter" thing out. Both the Lochner biography and the Biancolli include this denial of his ever being interested in painting. ~Vivalatosca