Talk:Frieze of Parnassus
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[edit] List from Albert Memorial
[edit] Poets and Musicians
The poets and musicians, on the memorial's south face, are: (French) Auber, Méhul, Rameau, Lulli, Grétry, Josquin Deprez, (Italian)Rossini, Monteverde, Carissimi, Palestrina, Guido d'Arezzo, Saint Ambrose, (mixed) Corneille, Moliere, Cervantes, Virgil, Dante, Pythagorus, Homer, Chaucer, Shakespeare, Milton, (German) Goethe, Schiller, Bach, Gluck, Handel, Mozart, Mendelssohn, Haydn, Weber, Beethoven, (English) Tallis, Gibbons, Lawes, Purcell, Arne, Boyce, and Bishop.
[edit] Painters
The painters, on the memorial's east face, are: (English) Turner, Wilkie, Reynolds, Gainsborough, Hogarth, ("Northern": Dutch/Flemish/German) Rembrandt, Rubens, Holbein, Albrecht Durer, Hubert van Eyck, John Van Eyck, Stephen of Cologne, (Italian) Cimabue, Orcagna, Giotto, Angelico, Ghirlandajo, Masaccio, Da Vinci, Raffaelle, Michelangelo, Bellini, Titian, Mantegna, Veronese, Tintoretto, Correggio, Annibale Carracci and Ludovico Carracci, (Spanish) Velasquez, Murillo, (French) Poussin and Claude, David, Gerard, Gericault, Delacroix, Vernet, Delaroche, Ingres, and Decamps.
[edit] Architects
The architects, on the memorial's north face, are: Pugin, Scott, Cockerell, Barry, Chambers, Vanbrugh, Wren, Inigo Jones, Mansart, Thorpe, Palladio, Vignola, Delorme, Sansovino, San Gallo, Peruzzi, Bramante, William of Wykeham, Alberti, Brunelleschi, Giotto, Arnolfo Di Lapo, Ermin Van Steinbach, Jehan de Chelles, Robert de Courcy, William of Sens, William the Englishman, Abbe Suger, Anthemius, Appollodorus, Hermodorus, Callimachus, Libon, Callicrates, Ictinus, Mnesicles, Chersiphron, Metagenes, Rhoecus, Theodorus, Hiram, Bezaleel, Sennacherib, Nitocris and Cheops.
[edit] Sculptors
The sculptors, on the memorial's west face, are: a stylised Egyptian, a stylised Assyrian, Rhoecus, Dibutades, Bupalus, Phidias, Scopas, Bryaxis, Leochares, Praxiteles, Lysippus, Chares, Giuliano de Ravenna, Niccola Pisano, Ghiberti, Luca Della Robbia, William Torel, William of Ireland, Verrocchio, Donatello, Michelangelo, Torrigiano, Giovanni Da Bologna, Vischer, Bandinelli, Cellini, Baccio d'Agnolo, Gaujon, Palissy, Bontemps, Pilon, Cano, Stone, Bernini, Cibber, Puget, Gibbons, Bird, Bushnell, Roubiliac, Canova, Flaxman, David d'Angers, Thorvaldsen.
[edit] National schools and details
Can anyone identify the national schools in the poets, musicians, and painters? Also, if someone could collate the dates of all the figures, that would give an idea of the chronological stuff, and how the architects and sculptors are indeed arranged chronologically. Finally, some of the objects identified in the "detail" section could be identified in a bit more detail. Carcharoth (talk) 18:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Done most on the lists above, but these are not complete are they? - does Giotto really appear twice (as an architect too)? Johnbod (talk) 18:32, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Are the schools complete? I wouldn't have a clue. There is a Victorian analysis in the external links now, which goes into detail on the poets, musicians, and painters. Maybe that will help? As for the duplicates, there are quite a few (seems a bit unfair, really, but maybe they didn't have that many to fill in the gaps or something back then? It is interesting seeing the differences between then and now). Anyway the duplicates, from a post I made at User talk:Diliff (who supplied the photos):
"Michelangelo [who appears twice on the frieze] is also in one of the mosaics (he was "skied to the mosiacs" as they called it then, along with David and Solomon, who don't appear in the frieze). Phidias is up in the mosiacs as well, along with Ictinus, Raphael and Homer. Funnily enough, Apelles is only in the mosaics, despite not being a legendary biblical figure like David and Solomon (the reason they were left out of the 'secular' frieze). In the frieze, I think the duplicates were Rhoecus (sculptor and architect), Giotto (painter and architect) and Michelangelo (painter and sculptor), and maybe some others I missed."
- Are the schools complete? I wouldn't have a clue. There is a Victorian analysis in the external links now, which goes into detail on the poets, musicians, and painters. Maybe that will help? As for the duplicates, there are quite a few (seems a bit unfair, really, but maybe they didn't have that many to fill in the gaps or something back then? It is interesting seeing the differences between then and now). Anyway the duplicates, from a post I made at User talk:Diliff (who supplied the photos):