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[edit] Discussion

[edit] addition of vfemmes.com link

In response to your query, I added the link because I felt that it was appropriate to have the band's site there because not enough information had been provided on the band members, particularly on the 'Horns of Dilemma' who had not been mentioned at all in relation to the Violent Femmes. I have added a more specific link now, which pertains to more personal information on the band, the HoD, and also anecdotes about the band and their experiences together.

I am aware that Wikipedia articles should stand on their own, but when discovering the Violent Femmes I think it would be helpful to have a link to the Violent Femmes site itself, perhaps at the bottom of the page under 'additional links' or something. Being relatively new to Wikipedia, and having had my edit challenged, I leave this to the discretion of more practised Wikipedians.

I have to say, on looking at the discussions here concerning the Violent Femmes, it seems that some excessively aggressive debating is going on, and I think that the page should not be so aggressively disputed. It seems that I stepped onto a bomb site when editing, for which I apologise. Ecoelen2k 23:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Violent Femmes

It's on my watchlist. If you are interested in working on music articles, you should check out WP:ALBUM, and its talk page, which is where the guidelines for albums are, and also take a look at Smile (album) which is, as far as I know, the only featured article on an album that we have (not ideal!). Revolver (album) is currently having a lot of work done upon it, and may be close to featured article status as well. As for creating articles on re-issues, I would encourage people to expand the original album article with that information, and only when that article becomes too long to split any information off. Jkelly 17:44, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

  • Oh hey, oops. I did not mean to edit that out...it was in the midst of doing other things. I will put it back in, I know nothing about the Violent Femmes so I have no dog in the fight. TKE 20:50, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
On reviewing my change, I think I viewed it as speculation. Seeing your contributions, I stand by putting it back in as you make a compelling case. TKE 02:30, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] n/s

I'm pretty bad about previewing my changes. Jkelly 04:54, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Wikiproject Albums

I thought I would answer your question here since you are probably not checking back on the talk page for WP:Albums. - As far as I know, quotes are required on the discography lists for singles as well. As for the redlinks on albums, they are probably a bad idea, and they are probably not mentioned here because most redlinks for albums would be found on the band's page and not an album page. So I would try to refrain from redlinking albums unless you plan on making a page for the album in the near future. I hope this answers your question. Weatherman90 00:01, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Violent Femmes' first album

Violent Femmes' first album was released in 1982, see http://vfemmes.com/disc-vfemmes-1.htm. Let's not get into an edit war on the release date. Mike Garcia 05:20, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: plural versus singular, on band names

Now I replied on Talk:Violent Femmes. Mike Garcia 02:54, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Gufs

How did you hear about The Gufs? They seem to be limited to Wisconsin. I think its funny how you found that article's author by checking out the author of a seemingly unrelated article!! Do you like my pic from the pits? Do you think its too gutsy displaying my pic? Royalbroil 22:32, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for inspiring me to listen to some songs from The Gufs. Smile is such a great tune! I wish I still lived in Sheboygan so I could hear the song on the radio from time to time.
You can add any Wisconsin bands to the List of bands from Wisconsin. I took the liberty of adding Mrs. Fun. Make sure they have blue links or they will have to be removed (I haven't added my cousin's band from Milwaukee because they are not notable according the WP:MUS guideline). Royalbroil 04:51, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
My cousin is in Signal to Shore. Royalbroil 05:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "moved categories from category to artist"

Hi. Do you know if there any's consensus or policy on this? It seems to be a total mishmash at the moment. Please reply on my talk page or at Talk:Jimmy Cauty. Thanks. --kingboyk 15:21, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Replied at Talk:Jimmy Cauty. Thanks for asking. -Freekee 15:39, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gorcrows

Hi there. Thanks for the comments about Gorcrows. I agree that having it at the plural name is wrong. I will correct that when I have the time. As for the category, well, that part of the category system is not perfectly organised yet. There are several other things there that aren't really "races", but have been put there until someone puts them somewhere better. I've got that on my list to sort out as well. As for whether or not Gorcrows should be in the category system (by categorising the redirect), I think they should be. The category system is not meant to be used instead of a search, rather it is a browsing tool to complement searching. ie. browsing is different from searching. I think readers should be able to find Gorcrows by: (a) browsing (hence the category); (b) searching (hence the mention in the Mewlips article); and (c) following links from existing articles (only one article links to Gorcrows at the moment). I don't really mind if you put the redirect up for deletion, but I would present these arguments against it if you did. Plus the argument that the edit history before redirection needs to be preserved (not so important here, but often important in other cases). I hope that's answered some of your concerns, and thanks again for the comment. Carcharoth 23:42, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

OK. I think the only thing we still disagree on is whether these redirects from "articles that have been merged into larger articles" should be categorised in article categories. I think they should, but I do see your point that people clicking on it from the category might expect an article, rather than a redirect. I may move these kind of redirects into a "minor FOO" category, similar to the "minor characters" lists that Wikipedia has. To some extent though, I think the message "redirected from FOO" at the top, helps the reader understand what has happened. Carcharoth 09:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Deleted comment at the Village Pump

It's still there. I don't know what you're talking about. SilentRage 22:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I see it at the bottom. Somebody must have fixed it. SilentRage 03:22, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of bands from Wisconsin

I noticed that they got rid of all of the states' articles. Check this out: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of United States musicians. I thought about doing an administrative review of the deletion, since they didn't bother to add the article to all of the states' pages. How could anyone have know that their state's list was about to be deleted? I decide not, because 1) the article was so difficult to maintain, 2) frequent vandalism, and 3) needed constant checking to keep off the red links. Doing it by categories FORCES the band to have an article, so I think its a better way. The down side is that noone thinks to look for a category, when it should be a list. You can review the administrative review procedures somewhere on the WP:AFD article if you choose. I gonna let this one pass. Whoever deleted the article should have cleaned up the dozens of red links that they created in Wisconsin. I wonder how many hundreds of red links they created nationwide. I wonder if I could use my AWB to clean it up.

I'm still listening to The Gufs CD in my car since you contacted me. I saw them a few weeks ago at Oshkosh for the first time! They were excellent. Thanks for your comments! Royalbroil 03:39, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I didn't see the article tagged for AFD. The list was on the WikiProject Wisconsin watchlist, so I most likely would have seen the change, although I haven't been on wikipedia very much this weekend. I bet they could bring the article back for a short time so you could populate the category. I don't think they followed a proper procedures by deleting states' articles without nominating each and every state. It sure doesn't look like it from the AFD link that I gave you. I occasionally participate in the AFD voting. Royalbroil 03:56, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
I have also left a message on the closing admin's talk page complaining about the number of red links that were created that should have been fixed. Royalbroil 04:01, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Hi Freekee, and thanks for the notification. After closing this AfD discussion, the only article I deleted was List of United States musicians, while another admin deleted List of bands from Wisconsin and other such articles. I apologize for any confusion this may have caused. If needed, I can restore the list(s) into your userspace until the deletion review is settled. Thanks, Sango123 15:12, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for creating categories for those articles. It looks like the lists are gonna be deleted. I have awarded you the "outspoken barnstar" for your efforts! --Royalbroil 02:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your appreciation, but the star seems to be meant for political discussion. And though it took me a couple of nights to populate the categories, and I did bring the matter to the public, I'm not sure I deserve a barnstar for it. :-) But thanks for noticing. And thanks for watching those list pages in the first place. -Freekee 03:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I stand behind giving you a barnstar. I have changed it to a THUMBS UP award, though. Per Wikipedia:Barnstars: "It is the custom to reward Wikipedia contributors for hard work and due diligence by awarding them barnstars." You were bold and your diligent actions set a wonderful precident for something inheritantly wrong with AFD. I don't think that barnstars should be given out easily, just in rare exceptional cases like this. --Royalbroil 02:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay. That, I'll take. :-) Thank you very much! -Freekee 02:55, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] X-American list proposal

Hi, I am contacting you as you have expressed some interest in the current arguments over lists of X-Americans. I would appreciate if you could have a read of my proposal and state whether you support or oppose it Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Rules for lists of X-Americans. Thanks! Arniep 11:33, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: your edits to unincorporated

Please respond at Talk:Unincorporated area. Thanks. --Coolcaesar 09:49, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Licensing of own picture

You can use {{No rights reserved}} -Nv8200p talk 21:16, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

Hi,

When you get a chance, please check the music WikiProject discussion page for my reply to your last response. --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 01:56, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category free use images

Thanks for taking the time to let me know I had added a private page to a category by mistake. I appreciate that. --cda 13:06, 1 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] List of Wisconsin state parks

I'd like to consult with you on your recent edits to Wisconsin state park system pages. There's a wonderful neatness to the changes, but officially all state parks and state recreation areas, some of the state forests, and a few other oddball designations (e.g. the Scenic Waters Areas) are all part of the Wisconsin state park system. The official list is here on the WDNR website. I'm concerned that separating out the various designations masks that they are all administered together as one system. Whether a site is designated a state park or state recreation area sometimes seems to be a matter of legislative expedience rather than a difference in quality. Moreover, some WI state forests are administered by the Division of Parks and Recreation as part of this system, and others by the DNR's Division of Forestry as non-recreational, sustainable forests. Listing the Parks and Rec forests together with the other state park units clarified this division. Just something to think about; I'm interested to hear your views. McGhiever 13:22, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Good question. The reason I went ahead with separating them (aside from the obvious), was the heavily crosslinked "see also" sections. My only problem with doing it in separate lists were the odd types like scenic waters and a few others. I'd be okay with combining them back if we can make sure the names and descriptions of the lists work, and also that they are searchable. Like calling it "List of Wisconsin state parks, forests and recreation areas" (or something, since that's very long), and then leaving the current lists as redirects to it. I wouldn't be opposed to putting all three categories in Category:Parks in Wisconsin. Any suggestions? -Freekee 01:58, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Free use images category?

You made a comment on my talk page (User_talk:Ron_Johnson) about putting nowiki tags on something I'd uploaded. I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I presume you can just go ahead and do whatever you were discussing. Again, I'm not sure what you were referring to exactly, so I can't be more specific.

I'm sorry, I don't contribute to wiki* projects anymore, the deletion activities I've seen piss me off, so I choose to make no further contributions, other than the odd comments, like this one. I also don't check my talk page very often anymore. --Ron 22:28, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Botched Fix

Thanks for catching that!

Ursatz 05:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:SIG

Thank you for the concern. I am aware of WP:SIG, but after probably 8k edits since I started using the sig (2k in ~~~~ marking), it hasn't been a problem. Thanks again and cheers! -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 06:55, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD comment

Re: this: I myself thought about writing some joke comment saying, "This is spam. Don't do it again or you'll be blocked." But as someone might have taken that a bit to seriously, I'd say your comment was a safer way to go. :-) Heimstern Läufer 05:07, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3 (Violent Femmes album)

I'm confused by your message. The article has only one source. I used the one-source tag. Why would I want to use a different one, and which one would you recommend? If I'm missing something, please point it out. Rklawton 04:22, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I tagged it thusly because I saw only one source cited. I see billboard information, but I see no source for this information. The article should indeed be expanded to include reviews, but that's a separate issue. Rklawton 04:37, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
It's a new day, and a see your point. I'll fix the tags accordingly. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Rklawton 15:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] let's get freaky freekee!

that was just waiting to be said 75.75.127.19 02:57, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 10cc awards

Thanks for your comments re the long list of certification awards at 10cc. Can you please clarify a couple of things, though: what did you mean by saying "I think a better place for charting info is the album article." My question was specifically about the list of UK certifications rather than chart details. I think the chart details for their discography works OK, but I think gold/platinum etc certifications (if they're important at all) belong in the Wiki article for each album rather than the 10cc article.

Could you also please elaborate on your suggestion that "The band article could use a summary". The 10cc article is a fairly comprehensive one, but it has become rather come complicated in the last month or two with the addition of the large number of subheads that split up the band's early years. Your thoughts would be appreciated: reply here and I'll put your talk page on Watch. Thanks, Grimhim 04:41, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I meant "certification details," rather than "charting details." In my mind, they are similar subjects. I've never been a big fan of charting info, and not much more for certification details. Especially "silver" - that doesn't seem very notable at all. I prefer to see info about an album in that album's article. In the band article, a summarized description of the certifications is fine. Something like, "the band had eight gold records in the UK, beginning with their third album. Only one went platinum..." That's what I meant by including a summary - to summarize the info in question. Charting info is not as bad in the discography, because it helps to see it all tabulated in one place. For that reason, you could add the certs to the discog too (even though I personally don't care for it). I see I didn't say all that very clearly in my original comments. You could have asked for clarification there. :-)
Question for you. Are you a big fan of 10cc? Do you own all their records? I want to know the cover artists for Ten Out of 10, Windows in the Jungle and ...Meanwhile. Can you help? -Freekee 04:58, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Good points -- thanks. The awards were added by a new user who, under his username and an IP address, has been adding a bucketload of crap to the 10cc article, much of it pilfered from a fan website, for the last few days. Most of it I've deleted. He has also been blithely adding images sourced from who knows where and ignoring the copyright violation warnings on his talk page. As for the designers of the cover images -- no problem. I'm at work at the moment, but I'll check the albums tonight when I get home. Grimhim 05:20, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
OK, found those albums. Ten out of 10 cover design is credited to Visible Ink; Meanwhile is Laurence Dunmore (design & art direction) and Windows in the Jungle is STd. Whatever STd is. [[1]] is an excellent resource if you're after more. Oh, and I boiled down the certifications and kept them at the main 10cc page for the moment. Thanks again. Grimhim 13:29, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
The certification section looks fair. I just thought of another way you could do it. You could put asterisks in the discography table. One for silver, two for gold and three for platinum. Just an idea. Thanks for checking on the cover artists. Many of their covers were done by Hipgnosis, and I wanted to make sure those weren't too. Happy wiki-ing! -Freekee 05:12, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Mmmm, not sure about the asterisks, since they apply only to the UK. I'm kind of over it. Hey, there's a recurring issue on both the 10cc and Consequences pages I just cannot fix. Check out the references and see if you can work out why for one reference on each, the website re-direction thingy doesn't work. The markup is identical to other references that have a website, but for some reason a square bracket remains visible, as does the entire URL. I've tried a dozen ways to get them to behave, without success.Grimhim 12:11, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
No idea. There were double curly braces at the end of the one reference, so I removed them. That fixed the problem... in that reference. It showed up in another. Ref #2 is messed up now. I can't figure out what's wrong with it or the one on the 10cc page. I recommend trying the technical side of WP. Like maybe Wikipedia:Bug reports.
Will do. It's a puzzle. The curly bracket was actually the end of the breakout "cquote" markup that stuck in the big quote marks at the end, so I replaced them. Thanks anyway.Grimhim 03:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Oh, sorry about that. Funny how it fixed note 4 anyway. -Freekee 03:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sandbox

I happened to find User:Freekee/Sandbox via this Google search. I just thought I'd point out that you can now use {{Template:Infobox Album/doc/type|color=Color}}. ;-) --PEJL 05:40, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but you can use Template:Infobox Album/link/doc#Unit test and Template:Infobox Album/color/doc#Unit test for such tests. --PEJL 17:13, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nice (album by The Nice)

I've just created this page but the redirect from The Nice took me to an empty page for Elegy, which is a different album. I'm sure this will turn up in your watchlist but if I've goofed badle, please let me know. --Rodhullandemu 15:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice, changes in progress. I've not created an album page before so you might have to hold my hand, er, metaphorically speaking. --Rodhullandemu 16:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

This should be just about finished; I've also put up a page for Elegy_(Nice_album) and put a lot of stuff into Second_Light if you'd care to check it out when you have time. In particular external reference 3 is in fact an internal reference but I wanted it to link without showing the title & I'm not sure this is the right way of doing it! Cheers. --Rodhullandemu 15:18, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Personal attacks

Please note that personal attacks specifically "They seem to feel that the results justifies being an asshole." are unwarrented. If you have an issue with something I do, feel free to approach me in a civil manner than make personal attacks. Thank you! — Moe ε 06:33, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I generally do copy-and-paste a message about the removal of images, but I assumed this was going to be a fairly uncontroversial action. I went back to the talk page to discuss this if there was a matter, and found his thinly veiled personal attack on whomever removed the images, which just happened to be me, and that doesn't exactly prompt me to be the nicest person in response. Then TallulahBelle went on various noticeboards to go on and say that I was committing 'vandalism' by removing the images (and BTW the noticeboard it was last asked on said the images should have been removed). I explained in a few post replies that WP:NONFREE prohibits the use of non-free images like that, so saying I removed it and never bothered to comment or explain is inaccurate, disagreeing doesn't mean I didn't try to explain it. I believe I also stated it in the edit summary, which means that I provided at least some idea of why I removed it (I usually type: 'remove excessive non-free images; see WP:NFCC..' or something along those lines). I'm not beating a dead horse about that anymore. The point is there was no reason to state that even if I wasn't directed towards me, I was the only one posing opposition to you, so it implies what you meant. Being uncivil towards me doesn't get you far, as it only provokes me to respond the same. — Moe ε 05:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Live Adventures of Mike Bloomfield and Al Kooper

Hi there, FreeKee, I wonder if you can have a look at this for me & see if it can be taken out of stub; I'd put it on the WP:Albums Assessment page but it doesn't look as if anyone is picking these up just now. There is a backlog, all of my stuff. Cheers, --Rodhullandemu 01:26, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Done. Nice work! -Freekee 03:06, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your very helpful comments. If I were experienced enough to give you Barnstars & stuff, I'd do it; as to your suggestion re:Trivia, hmmm. I've read WP:Trivia. It seems to me, having seen a number of pages with Trivia sections, that these are the last refuge of editors who do not know how to interpolate information otherwise- that's why I use refs as footnotes. Meanwhile, I'll take your comments on board. Happy editing!! --Rodhullandemu 03:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
I know what you mean about trivia. I hate trivia sections because they end up being a collecting point for useless crap like "you can hear this song playing the background of one scene in..." But trivia is allowed in WP, and even trivia sections if they're reasonable. In this case, I think most of the info you presented was reasonable to have in the article, so calling it that would not be the worst thing in the world. -Freekee 03:33, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Just working on this before I finally get some zzz's (sheesh!- two pages done today); Not quite sure what you mean by "The other thing I would recommend is to remove most of the "introduction". Do you mean Bloomfield's opening speech or my analytical comments? I have emailed Al Kooper to get his comments on this page and if necessary, can get his consent for publication. Cheers --Rodhullandemu 03:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
I meant the text for Track 1. Sorry. Be careful about who owns the copyright, though. It probably belongs to the publishing company. That might be Kooper, though. -Freekee 03:33, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Copyright probably legally belongs to CBS/Columbia, since I don't think relationships between labels & performers in the late 60s would have foreseen a use such as this nearly forty years later. I'm prepared to defend it on a "fair use" basis since the actual text has been in the public domain, without demur, over that period. I'm not an expert on US copyright law, but if I get a reply from Al Kooper releasing what is essentially his production, I would be content with that. I'm not sure I would want to get into an argument with the Estate of Bloomfield, if it still exists, but my inclination is to follow the advice of the Duke of Wellington: "Publish & be Damned!". I'll leave it as it is, and if some Bot picks it up, OK. This is not something that is going to bring WP to its knees. "Time for Bed", said Zebedee --Rodhullandemu 03:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

For you good work and contributions to Wisconsin articles and bands! :) LightHouseEffect (talk) 21:55, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Consensus for deletion?

There didn't seem to be a consensus for deletion at CfD:Album articles without cover art. Would you mind explaining your decision? -Freekee (talk) 17:21, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

See: User_talk:Jogers#Category:Album_articles_without_cover_art. - jc37 22:28, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Miss Freelove '69

The song was released as a single by Hoodoo Gurus off the band's 1991 album, Kinky. The single reached No. 3 on the Billboard Modern Rock Tracks chart in that year - check the article on the album or the discograhy listing. An opportunity exists to create a separate article on the single & I'll put it on my to-do list.Dan arndt (talk) 03:01, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Many thanks for your comments about the proposed merger of the Janesville, Madison articles-town&city.Thank you-RFD (talk) 00:48, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to My Party

Fair enough. Happy holidays! --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 04:20, 25 December 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Jumpinjive.jpg

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I messed with this. Feel free to revert it. Wwwhatsup (talk) 07:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Not a problem. -Freekee (talk) 02:34, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Grafton image

Nice image of downtown Grafton and the park! I went to a wedding there once for one of my then co-workers back when I lived in Sheboygan, and your image reminds me of the moment. Thanks! Royalbroil 01:31, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bands

I did what was requested on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music#Bands. You were involved in that discussion, so what do you think? --Qsaw (talk) 17:31, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:MUSIC proposal

As someone who has previously been involved in WP:MUSIC policy discussion. I would much appreciate your input on this proposal if possible. --neonwhite user page talk 02:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request for your comments

As someone previously involved in a discussion re this issue, I would appreciate your comments at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums#Release_dates_listed_pre-release. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 14:19, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wadham's Oil and Grease Company of Milwaukee

You asked me to comment about the article's potential at DYK. Length is kind of short but long enough (around 1760 found, 1500 minimum). A DYK can't be a stub, so I removed the stub markers. It meets the date criteria. The DYK needs to be cited with an inline citation, so be careful. I read through the references, and they each reference way more than the one sentence that they are attached to. I recommend that you add them to multiple lines. I provided you with a sample of how to use several inline citations from one source. Let me know if you need more help. The picture is striking and should be recommended if you decide to list the article.

The first thing that caught my eye was: "How is this notable?" There were hundreds of gas stations brands at that time. I dug around and found 2 things that weren't noted: the brand eventually became part of Mobil Oil which makes it notable, and at least one station became a registered historic place (RHP) which is notable. I would create a section for RHP station(s), then add the article to Category:Registered Historic Places in Wisconsin. See Herman C. Timm House for the various templates related to RHP in Wisconsin. Let me know if you need help with anything. You have 5 days from creation to list it. Royalbroil 12:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, RB. You confirmed some of the things I was thinking, including the picture. The thing I would most like to DYK is the fact that the stations were among the earliest examples of branding by architecture. The quote in the article that is relevant is This notion of architecture as packaging was novel at the time Eschweiler created the Wadhams pagoda, but spread rapidly through gas station retailing and into the broader vocabulary of roadside design. I hope that's a good enough citation. I'll update the article for the RHP. Thanks! -Freekee (talk) 04:19, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I think you should nominate it for DYK. It's a great hook if you word it right. Make sure that it's listed under the right date (April 21). Definitely nominate the picture too - it's excellent. My pictures don't usually get used, so don't be offended if it's not used.
I rarely get to your area anymore. I moved from Sheboygan and my sister moved away from Port. I do have a picture request. I'd like a closeup detail picture of the SAFER barrier at the Milwaukee Mile if you go to State Fair Park. I suppose you'd have to have access to the track, so you probably couldn't honor my request. I took this picture looking through a chainlink fence that's not visible on the picture. I wish I could have gotten closer to look down to show the honeycomb pattern of the SAFER barrier. Maybe I'll make it to a race at the Mile this year. Did you know that there was a local track at Cedarburg that was very important to former NASCAR champion Alan Kulwicki's early career? Royalbroil 05:30, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kulwicki's gravestone

Check out the image at flickr for a detailed map: http://www.flickr.com/photos/royal_broil/2157750157/ . On the lower right, click on (map) after Taken in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Then zoom in to the extreme detail. It's located at the last gravestone in that section of the cemetery. You can see the road behind the gravestone. It's a family gravestone. He's buried next to his mother and brother. I wonder if his father Gerry got buried there, too, to complete the last of the Kulwicki's. You can find a map of the cemetery at findagrave.com [2]. Kulwicki is located at the extreme left side of Section 15. There's also congressmen Klezka's grave nearby in section 12 or 13, baseball hall of famer Al Simmon's beautiful huge gravestone in section 14 or 17, and congressman Zablocki has a beautiful statue in section 15 (I think). These other people are buried in that general area. Royalbroil 03:33, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Yep, you got the right image. His grave is the one in the center where there are 2 small bushes close together with the gravestone between them. Just on the other side of the road near those trees is where Congressman Klezka is buried. I don't remember seeing that other gravestone that you took, but I have the water tower in the background of some of my pictures of Al Simmon's grave. Royalbroil 02:44, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 4/26 DYK

Updated DYK query On 26 April 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Wadham's Oil and Grease Company of Milwaukee, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bedford 23:34, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wisconsin Historical Markers

Where did you find out that the Wisconsin historical markers are copyrighted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redwoodperch (talk • contribs) 02:28, 2 May 2008 (UTC)