User:Fred-stine

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Hello: I've created the new article Orca (Jaws boat) as an adjunct to what was not covered in the article Jaws (film). This article is notable and of encyclopedic value based on its dual nautical and cinematic relevance, and place in popular culture. Its independant encyclopedic value is noteworthy because its history as a non-fictional boat predates its depiction as a fictionalized craft. This rationale should best address the the following concern:

  • Non-notable fictional boat. Unencyclopedic. At best merge to Jaws (film)

The general context of parent article Jaws (film) does not allow for the detail required to describe noteworthy data concerning Orca (Jaws boat) which, thereby validates this articles necessity. Furthermore, several attempts to add a website link to Jaws (film) concerning the history of "Orca (Jaws boat), the shark fishing boat from Jaws" were denied, again, thereby validating this articles requisite existence. Therefore, based on the preceding substantiated rationale I overtly protest any merge. Thankyou.

Fred-stine 11:28, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The case for NOT merging article

There are several sub-articles existing with like or lesser significance by comparison. Amity Island is one. Alternately, the boat in of itself Orca (Jaws boat) has already been established as a cultural icon by way of English phraseology ie. "We're gonna need a bigger boat". Throughout Wikipedia, there are articles about films such as Batman which maintain sub-articles focusing on the vehicle(s). See batmobile. Case in point, Planet of the Apes as a parent article, points to a sub-article Icarus (fictional spacecraft). This spacecraft was featured in the film for a mere brief opening sequence, yet 'ORCA' is a primary core set piece and figures into better than one third of the film. Without a defining arguement, it is my sincere opinion that precendent points clearly to this article remaining as a stand alone piece. Fred-stine 11:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)


wish I could read the article on this boat````

Email me and I'll send you a copy or check article history. oporca@yahoo.com Fred-stine (talk) 06:33, 29 May 2008 (UTC)