Talk:Frenulum of prepuce of penis

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Contents 1 Treatments for frenulum breve 2 Naming 3 They seem like minor changes 4 Pictures 5 Frenulum breve jpg 6 Picture of Circumcised with a (part of) Frenulum

[edit] Treatments for frenulum breve

I've searched the internet and I cannot find any site that recommends - or explains - manual stretching and using creams to treat FB. Everywhere I've looked says frenuplasty is the way to go. Could someone link some sites to this article relating to stretching techniques? 199.126.137.209 17:28, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naming

This article should be renamed to Frenulum (prepuce). The current name does not fit well with WP:NC. Tomer^talk 06:52, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Agree, it should be moved. Does anyone disagree? Jakew 09:35, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Before proceding, perhaps it would be a good idea to ask...are there any other frenula associated with the penis? This is almost diametrically opposite to my areas of expertise, so I'm very far outside my element here... but if there are no other such frenula, a better name would actually be Frenulum (penis). Tomer^talk 03:59, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't think so.

However, I've noticed that the other pages listed at frenulum all seem to use the Latin names. They should probably be changed per WP:NC(CN), but there may be a good reason for it. I really think we need to decide on something and then apply it consistently, so I'll leave a note at talk:frenulum. Jakew 20:46, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't think any frenula have "common names". I may be wrong, but I'd never even heard of the word until last year when I, against my wishes and better judgment, got dragged into a fight at Circumcision. Maybe it's a common word among ppl who talk about foreskins and frenula a lot, but it's not the kind of thing I think that comes up in normal discussion, as far as I'm aware. Of course, in the part of the world where I live, happily, most ppl don't even have penile frenula, so it's possibly understandable why I shouldn't have heard of it...I don't know, maybe people really do talk about this in England...I never have understood British "humour"... :-p Tomer^talk 03:16, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I was actually sort of serious, but I should explain. 'Frenulum' may not be in common usage, but it is commonly used by people interested in such topics (I would guess that there are common names in marketing, for example, that I've never heard of because I know nothing about the subject). Believe it or not, Google finds 259,000 pages that use the word. 'Penile frenulum,' on the other hand, returns 6,330 pages. Poor frenulum preputii penis returns only 786 pages. Google hits may not be the best measure of what people actually search for, but I hope you can see what I'm saying anyway.

Having said all that, I haven't heard of any common names for other frenula, so I may be being hopelessly and boringly pedantic. ;-) Jakew 12:07, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure people actually spend a lot of time searching for information on frenula.  :-p Tomer^talk 00:57, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

That's probably true. :) Jakew 12:37, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

So, are we in agreement then, on Frenulum (penis)? If so, are you going to move it or shall I? Tomer^talk 21:56, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] They seem like minor changes

Jakew...What is it that you object to? Here's the two pages:[1]TipPt 15:31, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Jakew... the context is now frenulum sensitivity. Researchers studying circumcision pain are in a position ... both professionally and pertinent to the reader ... to evaluate pain sensitivity.

The study looked into pain breakthrough at the frenulum. It's comments are about problems due to frenectomy, not circumcision. The context is frenulum and innervation. The Topic here is frenulum and sensitivity. Here's the whole comment:TipPt 19:20, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

COMMENT: Minneapolis appears to be the epicenter of the dorsal penile nerve block movement. Beginning with Gunnar's excellent work on the distress experienced by infant boys circumcised without anesthesia it now clear that circumcision is an extremely painful, physiologically stressful event. While dorsal penile nerve block lessens the pain and cortisone response, it is not eliminated completely. Some have anecdotally claimed a high failure rate of the anesthetic. Theoretically, the block should be effective. One possible explanation for the apparent failures is that the ventral surface of the penis may not receive a complete block. The highest concentration of nerves in the penis is located in the frenulum on the ventral surface of the penis. The severing the frenulum may be responsible for this pain breakthrough as well as most bleeding complications, meatal stenosis, and urethral fistulae. While this study sets aside the safety issue of dorsal penile nerve block, its overall efficacy may be over­rated. Currently, a physician has no excuse not to use an anesthetic when performing the procedure.

Tip, correct me if I'm wrong, but this paragraph doesn't appear to mention sensitivity. Jakew 21:22, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Pain is sensed. Regional differences levels of pain is related to sensitivity ... concentration of nerves ... in that area.

Worring about you taking the sentence out gave me an idea ... we need a frenectomy risks and complications section.TipPt 15:59, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures

I find that the second picture down is not very sharp, in other words it's blurry and not very good quality, I'm going to add a better quality picture in the additional pictures. Respond to this comment if you want to comment. Nikon307 03:50, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I think that's a better image as well, I'm going to switch the two images. Mercurydweller 02:56, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Would everyone who is reverting pictures in and out, or who wishes to comment on which picture is better, please state clearly here which picture you're talking about and why you think it's better. Don't just revert without comment. Nikon307 and Mercurydweller, it's not clear to me what specific images you're expressing opinions about. Thanks. --Coppertwig 19:37, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Frenulum breve jpg

The pictured penis with frenular breve displays chordee, and would undergo frenectomy during circumcision.TipPt 01:21, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture of Circumcised with a (part of) Frenulum

It would be a good idea to have a picture of a circumcised penis with the frenulum not directly removed, for fair comparison. Can someone do this?

82.46.151.84 (talk) 16:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)