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[edit] Minerals and Chemical Resources

By any chance would anyone know what mineral and chemical resources are found in the French Polynesia and where it would be and what would its state in nature be? I need to know for a project of mine, but I can't find it anywhere online, so I thought I would ask people who may know...

[edit] (list of) communes of French Polynesia

There is no list of communes of French Polynesia. French Polynesia is also not mentioned in the article Commune in France nor in the article Lists of communes of France. Do the communes in French Polynesia have some kind of special status and are not mentioned because of that?

In the French-language Wikipedia, there is already a collection (although not a list) of communes in French Polynesia: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communes_de_Polyn%C3%A9sie_fran%C3%A7aise.

Here is also a list (the numbers in this list coincide with the list in the French-language Wikipedia):
http://www.statoids.com/ypf.html .

Yet another list (with missing numbers):
http://www.world-gazetteer.com/wg.php?x=1126512541&men=gcis&lng=en&gln=xx&dat=32&srt=npan&col=aohdq&geo=-169.

-- Citylover 08:16, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese in French Polynesia?

What type of Chinese is predominant in French Polynesia? I am under the impression that it is Hakka, but am unsure. The Jade Knight 08:54, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Haka communes

Chinese speakers in french Polynesia refer to themselves as Haka (and have relatives in Canton) but some speak the language and have relatives in Hong kong

The concept of commune is largely artificial in french polynesia where the settlement has become concentrated only since the arrival of european religions. A lot of the communes created in 1971 (I believe) were later grouped in "communes associées" that are at present the real politic entities. stephane.jourdan at informatique.gov.pf

[edit] Overseas country or collectivity ?

French Polynesia is a collectivité d'outre-mer (overseas collectivity), ruled by the article #74 of French constitution, and as recalled in article 1st of the organic law of 27 february 2004. This law calls it a pays d'outre-mer (overseas country), but it is not a category, it's just its particular name, which means that it has a large autonomy (unlike Mayotte, another overseas collectivité, called collectivité départementale to show its likeness to common departments). So French Polynesia should be defined as a collectivité d'outre-mer called pays d'outre-mer, or, at least, there should be no mention of the fact that it used to be a collectivité d'outre-mer. Moreover, the Conseil constitutionnel has juged (12 février 2004) : Considérant que l'article 1er de la loi organique, après avoir précisé la configuration territoriale de la Polynésie française, énonce les principes généraux applicables à la Polynésie française, collectivité d'outre-mer dont l'autonomie est régie par l'article 74 de la Constitution ; que, s'il désigne cette dernière comme " pays d'outre-mer ", cette dénomination n'emporte aucun effet de droit ; que, dans ces conditions, l'article 1er n'est pas contraire à la Constitution ; (French Polynesia is an overseas collectivity, overseas country is just a name, not a legal status, unless what it would be unconstitutionnal).

Jussia 14:44, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reference to french flag

Why did the french flag associated with the local flag disappear in the english version of the article ? As far as I know, there are not independant, although they have a large autonomy. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyn%C3%A9sie_fran%C3%A7aise

There is no reason for the French flag to show up. The US flag doesn't appear on the Puerto Rico or United States Virgin Islands articles; the French Polynesian flag and seal or coat of arms should appear, not the French. The French article should probably be modified as such. The Jade Knight 05:56, 10 February 2006 (UTC)


Article 1st of French Polynesia's status (law of 27 February 2004)

La Polynésie française détermine librement les signes distinctifs permettant de marquer sa personnalité dans les manifestations publiques officielles aux côtés de l'emblème national et des signes de la République.

FP can have its own flag but it should be sided by the French one.
Legally, if PR and USIV are under the sovereignty of the USA, they are not administrative subdivisions of them, although FP is a subdivision of France.

I think that if FP is described as a French subdivision (French law), French flag is useless (see any French region) but if it is described as a dependant area under the sovereignty of France (international law ?), French flag must be used as it is one of FP's two official flags.

The article on Wales does not include the Union Jack. The article on Normandy does not include the French flag. The article on Jersey does not include any flags of the United Kingdom. Norfolk Island does not include an Australian flag, Gibraltar doesn't include a UK flag, Greenland does not include the Danish flag, etc. The Jade Knight 23:23, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
The article on Tokelau includes the New Zealand flag...
There is no flag on Normandy's page because there is no "legal" Normandy, Jersey is even not under the sovereignty of UK, Wales is a subdivision of UK so its local flag is shown. Norfolk, Gibraltar and Greenland are good examples because they are usually seen, like French Polynesia, as dependant areas (and not subdivisions). But unlike these territories, FP has 2 official flags (see the quoted article 1st of its status), including the French one.
The US flag is legal in all 50 states. The French flag is legal in Normandy (you may not consider there being any "legal" Normandy, but the Norman flag is there on its article), etc. I just don't see any reason for the French flag to be here; the article is on French Polynesia, not on France. For the exact same reason you wouldn't put the US flag on an article on Nevada or a Danish flag on Greenland, you wouldn't put the French flag here. The Jade Knight 05:11, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
About Normandy, I just wanted to say that this is not a region, since the historical Normandy is divided into Lower-Nprmandy and Upper-Normandy.
Nevada and Greenland cannot be compared : Nevada is seen as a part of USA, Greenland is seen as being under sovereignty of Denmark (and listed in the list of countries). If you see FP, as Nevada, as a part of France (French point of view), the French flag has not to be put in the article, since it os obviously legal in all France. But if you see FP, as Greenland, as a dependant area under the sovereignty of France (English Wikipedia's point of view), I think that French flag should be put there, since it is one of the two flags of FP (althought Danish flag is not, as far as I know, a flag of Greenland).
This whole free-for-all was started by an anon, so, -3 points. The free-for-all was begun with the assertion that the French flag had been removed from the article: it's never appeared in the article, so, -300 more points. That said, the French tricolor doesn't appear in French Southern Territories, Wallis and Futuna, New Caledonia, Clipperton Island, etc., why should it appear here? It's not like there's some big "censor France" conspiracy going on here. Seriously, if you have that big a burr in your saddle about it, why not just add a small note to the table indicating that the tricolor is also an official flag instead of making this big stink here? Tomertalk 11:43, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. The Jade Knight 07:30, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Official language

French is the Official language of french Polynesia. Tahitian is not official.*

  • <Loi organique n° 96-312 du 12 avril 1996portant statut d'autonomie de la Polynésie française>

Article 115-1) Le français est la langue officielle, la langue tahitienne et les autres langues polynésiennes peuvent être utilisées.

[edit] Proposed WikiProject

In my ongoing efforts to try to include every country on the planet included in the scope of a WikiProject, I have proposed a new project on Polynesia at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Polynesia whose scope would include French Polynesia. Any interested parties are more than welcome to add their names there, so we can see if there is enough interest to start such a project. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:18, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Currency

The currency is still the Pacific Franc, pegged to the Euro. [1] There is some political talk of moving to the Euro, but this is somewhat controversial. David.Monniaux 21:15, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History section?

How is there no history section in this article? john k 06:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

History: European exploration of the long-inhabited islands began when sailors from Spain and Portugal reached the islands during the 16th century C.E. The Dutch explorer Roggeveen, the British explorers Wallis, Cook, and Bligh, and French explorer Bougainville, all visited the islands during the 18th century. The French gradually took control of the islands. In 1842, Tahiti was officially declared a protectorate of France, and the other islands were annexed by the end of the century. Between 1977 and 1996, France detonated 150 explosions here as part of its nuclear weapons program.124.99.205.23 04:47, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Even that message is more comprehensive than the history section that used to be in the article. The history section was removed in this edit over a year ago - I've put it back. Graham87 12:34, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
I've expanded the history section somewhat. Graham87 16:25, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Administration Section

Administration:

"Between 1946 and 2003, French Polynesia had the status of an overseas territory (French: territoire d'outre-mer, or TOM). In 2003 it became an overseas collectivity (French: collectivité d'outre-mer, or COM). Its statutory law of 27 February 2004 gives it the particular designation of"

of? o.O

[edit] Conseil du Scoutisme polynésien

Can someone render "Conseil du Scoutisme polynésien" and "Be Prepared", the Scout Motto, into Tahitian? Thanks! Chris 14:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User ty

I have looked at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedians_by_language . It would appear that there are no templates like Template:User ty, Template:User ty-3 for Tahitian. :( Chris 06:53, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Who is President?

The article on Wikipedia states that Oscar Temaru is the pro-independence president of FP. However, the BBC Website states Gaston Tong Sang as the anti-independence president so who is it? W2ch00 11:17, 7 October 2007 (UTC)