Talk:Fremantle, Western Australia

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[edit] earlier comments

Fremantle, Australia has been moved to Fremantle, because there is only one Fremantle(unless you count the guy it's named after). -- Tim Starling 08:57 Mar 6, 2003 (UTC)

Quite surprised that Fremantle has so little content. Are there any Perth editors who are Freo based that can contribute? There is a lot of history in Freo that can be told, and certainly you'd not be a true Perth person without spending part of your childhood in Freo or eating at Cicerello's at least.

I'm pretty sure the image http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fremantle_tagged_gnangarra.jpg has the train station tagged incorrectly. To my knowledge, the train station is actually not visible in the photograph, being to the right of the harbour control building. -- G solon 19:03, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree. The green turret dome belongs to Barwil House which is about 4 blocks south-west of the train station on cliff street. The arch-looking structure (which probably caused the confusion) appears to be part of the modern innards of one of the buildings between Mouat and Henry streets. MuJoCh 21:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree to the tagged bulding is on the west side of the park opposite TS which is on the north side inthe image under the first crane, I'll re tagged and place a new image there shortly Gnangarra 10:00, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

Are we sure that "FremAntle" is universally pronounced as "FrEEmantle"? I've been here for over 40 years, and the only people I ever heard use "FrEEmantle" have been po English migrants -- and only a few at that. Gordon | Talk, 05 November 2006 @05:35 UTC

I lived around there for 25+ years, and I think the pronunciation section of the article is pretty accurate. And I'm not a pommy English migrant either ;) - Gobeirne 08:35, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. Born here > 50 years ago. But I suspect an "old money" class preference for "FremAntle". Callophylla 04:41, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I live way over on the other side :p - I always thought it was exactly the opposite to what it appears to be saying in the article. An untutored reader (such as myself) would pronounce it with the first syllable enunciated as FREE, whereas a local would shorten that up to sound like FRUH. So there you go.

Either way, can we move it to somewhere other than the leading paragraph. It seems as if it plopped there after some pub brawl on the issue. I also gave it over to WP:WA, Stirling's camp be damned! - Fredmantle
I agree that it shouldn't be in the first paragraph. I was born and raised in Freo so I will put have to some work into this article. I mean come on, the [Hamersley, Western Australia|Hamersley] article has 75 references, and this one has a whole four... Also (because I can't resist having my $0.02) I have always pronounced it FREEmantle, and East FREEmantle. If it weren't pronounced like that, it wouldn't be shortened to FREE-oh! Many people, both locals and non-locals, do say it the other way, but that doesn't make it right ;-) +203.161.90.233 16:49, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Um, that was me; thought I was logged in, obviously not. +Bass hound 16:55, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FREE-mantle

I have put the pronunciation guide to freo as a footnote. There did not seem to be anywhere else to put it yet. I added a tiny bit and another reference. Fred 17:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Carmen Lawrence

The article as it stood mentioned that Carmen Lawrence was a "significant political figure" which Fremantle had "produced". It then went on to say that she was the first female Australian Premier etc. I have removed it to this talk page for discussion because it did not have a citation. It does not seem right to me. Sure, she's a significant (and controversial) political figure, but I am not convinced that Fremantle has had much to do with this at all. Her article says she was born in Northam, went to various schools elsewhere in Perth and WA, taught in Melbourne, and she was first elected to the WA parliament as the member for Subiaco, and then after a redistribution, got re-elected twice as member for Glendalough, once while she was Premier. The only time that Fremantle seems to even come into her biography was when she stood for it, a safe Labor seat. To claim that Fremantle somehow nurtured her into her success ignores that she was already high-profile, significant and controversial well before she had anything to do with Fremantle. - Mark 11:09, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Fremantle was a seat of convenience(safe labor) when she moved across to Federal Politics, while she may be a significant figure in Fremantle, she isnt the product of Fremantle. From memory she had resigned/lost the state election as premier before moving to federal politics. Gnangarra 12:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)