Talk:Freestyle rap

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This could be condensed into rap. Morganmichaels 05:23, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Yes, this could be, but not all the subcategories of rap listed. And who is to decide which subcategories need their own article. This article could use with some history, and maybe a list of famous freestylers, and then it would be easily too detailed to be subsumed in the main article on rap music. -- Cimon Avaro on a pogostick 06:33, Nov 26, 2003 (UTC)
I think this should be moved to freestyling, because the current title makes it sound like its a subgenre of rap music. It isn't so much a subgenre, though, because it can be old school rap, gangsta rap, alternative rap, as long as it is improvised. Freestyle rapping might be better... Tuf-Kat 07:46, Nov 27, 2003 (UTC)

Given that a search for "freestyling" in wikipedia leads to this page this is more a discussion about changing the title of the page and in that sense i would agree that it should be called 'freestyling'. i think this is much more in tune with the way this art form is referred to by rappers and other people interested in hip hop music. i think this also deals with Tim Ivorson's concerns below, and i also agree with him, freestyling is more a kind of performance and not so much a static thing (ie a freestyle rap) RedwoodwordRedwoodword

Contents

[edit] Sections

this article should probably be divided into sections, something like; History, Methodology, Great Freestylers, Established Competitions, etc. ReverendG 18:11, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Freestyle rap is not a rap

The recent addition of a into the lead senetence (like so, "Freestyle rap is, strictly speaking, a rap...") makes it sound like a single performance, rather than a kind of performance. Tim Ivorson 21:16, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

here are some freestyle rappers:

ace, sick, reign man, gza [of wun tang clan], rza [of wu tang clan], freeway,Murder Mook [highly regarded as the best at this present time], Jin [Winner of BET's freestyle friday and the 2005 power summit], Cassidy, Serious jones, Jae millz, party arty, Loaded lux, Eddie morris, Reed dollarz [another higly regarded and known for a flawless delivery], trigga, Swann, Rhymefest [winner of scribble jam 2004], Eyedea, Shellz, T rex, Young neles, Un kasa [of diplomats], Hell rell [of diplomats], 40 cal [of diplomats], Proffesor green, Iron soleman, Nems, Red dott, Posta boy [Winner of freestyle friday] Whyte out [winner of freestyle friday] Orbit etc etc. It also must be noted that alot of the most popular artist today came up in the rap game through being known for freestyling like Nas and Eminem.

You should have written that better... and how could you forget KRS-One and even Common? --Taurus8 sam 06:37, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canibus and Freestyling

Deleted the part about canibus and freestyling

1.Canibus method of freestyling was known even before he became famous in 1998 , he admittied it when asked in an interview, his former partner even praised him for his ability ("In rhyming battles, Canibus was extremely aggressive. He memorized like 40 rhymes," Webb reminisces )and was praised for it some years latter by ras kass.He was never critised for it , nor did he ever tried to deney it he would even put word for word verses that he had freestyled( as in his defenition) into his album (see buckingham palace) if he was trying to hide this he was doing a very bad job of it, infact freesyling prewriten verses is realitivily common something that rappers such as DMX, eminem and chino xl have been known to do.


2.There is no credibility to the now newly formed on wikipeida rumor that canibus was called Milli Vanilli, search for it yourself.


3.Canibus's carrer did not end in 2003, after his second album failed to sell up to expetations he went independent and released 3 albums for 2001-2003 of those that speak of canibus's carrer ending the date usually given is either 1998 OR 2001 1998 is argued as a backlash from a well publisized battle with hip hop pioner llcoolj. 2001 because of the release of his controversial album entitled "c true hollywood stories" see http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005QXG9/sr=8-1/qid=1146250128/ref=sr_1_1/002-8625500-0020840?%5Fencoding=UTF8 and http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/2002_01F_stories.html In fact in 2003 the album he released outsold the ones he released made in 2001 and 2002 it even had the rare honour(for an indepenant artist) of debuting at no 7 of the independat billboard charts http://www.babygrande.com/news.jsp?id=25 Canibus did not join the army for political reasons and he has never voiced support for the war, even going as far as to hint in one of his mixtape songs that he supported John Kerry "Watching John Kerry spit over some Michal more beats". In 2004 he was sought out by wyclef john of fuggue fame to join his record label( so much for a dead carrer)he refused and was able to release 3 different albums on 3 different labels in the span of one year in 2005(Mind control on gladiatior records, Cloak and dagger on head trama records and mic club master on micclub).At present he is not the vice ceo of head trama records.

[edit] Merging Freestyle Battle

I suggested merging freestyle battle into this article. The two seem to be closely intertwined, and both articles are short. Objections? PaulKishimoto 05:59, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I say its a good idea. Rever

Ok Its cool with me Home Boy User: Bloveprince endG 06:11, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Voice and style

"...non-scripted, non-rehearsed, uncut, and the rawest form of hip-hop." "...rap uncensored from what is inside."

Phrases like these make for inappropriate voice - In places, the article reads like an attempt at a hip hop manifesto, or perhaps a soliloquy from 8 Mile. 24.84.202.57 00:36, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the comment above there needs to be a bit more rigor to the writing if it is going to reach wikipedia's standards. there also seems to be some confusion about what freestyling is as is evidence by comments like "freestyling prewritten verses is fairly common".

for this reason i'm suggesting that the article begins with the two main definitions of freestyling that i am aware of. i.e. freestyling as a free association written rap (no particular theme, the documentary freestyle the art of rhyme could be cited as a source in this case) and freestyling more or less as it is defined in the opening paragraph of the article although with some adjustments to style and voice. these changes might be something like what i've written in the following paragraph.


Freestyle rap refers to an improvisational form of rapping, performed with few or no previously composed lyrics. In this sense freestyle rap is defined in opposition to raps that are written and memorized. Freestyle rapping involves producing a continuous flow of words, often guided by both rhythmic and rhyme based structures that are generally performed in time with a musical accompaniment. In order to keep the flow of words going rappers will often make references to places and objects in their immediate surroundings. The imperative of 'keeping the flow' means that the thinking process that goes on while the rapper is freestyling may also enter into the content of the freestyle rap.

feedback appreciated Redwoodword 01:42, 13 April 2007 (UTC) Redwoodword