Talk:Frederick Delius

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[edit] Delius' Love Child

I have added a "citation needed" to the story of Delius's Florida affair and the child that was the fruit of it. I have read quite a bit on Delius, and I have never come across this before. It's not in itself inherently unbelievable but it's source needs to be identified.Meb53 23:59, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Parents sending children to Florida orange groves

Was there a fad for doing this in the 1880s as the actor Tyrone Power, Sr. was also sent from England to Florida to work in the citrus groves around the same time as Delius? Gustav von Humpelschmumpel 22:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Musical Uniqueness

Delius's musical style is one of the most unusual in Western musical history.

I know the phrase in the article has just been changed from unique to unusual. However both sound wrong to me; I think the problem might be more with 'one of the most' rather than the word that follows... Nick Watts 10:31, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Agreed that it does sound unencyclopedic. How should it be said, though? It remains an important point to mention somehow, because the distinctiveness of his music is not especially contested and has much to do with why he is a noteworthy composer. --209.6.158.78 06:41, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting referenced material

User:Rothorpe, Please note, the information given in that paragraph about the 'religion', etc, including the horoscope information which you observe in an edit summary needs a reference, is contained in the Beecham reference given at the end of the paragraph. There is, of course, very much more also about his 'religion' in the books by Warlock and Fenby, both of whom knew him pretty well in their way - as you could easily verify, no doubt. Cheers, Dr Steven Plunkett 00:09, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

The reference is in Beecham, p61 (all editions), start of chapter 8 'in the Salons of the Faubourg St Germain..':

"he speedily became a success in these lofty circles, especially with the feminine portion of them: less on account of his music or even his agreeable personality, than his professed leanings towards occultism. His speciality was the somewhat esoteric craft of astrology, and his gift as a maker of horoscopes was in great demand among those who did not shrink from giving approximately truthful accounts of their days and hours of birth.. A keen admirer of his proficiency was Calvé...
other diversions of this time were alchemy and metallurgy, into the mysteries of which he was inducted by August Strindberg., etc etc..."

I appreciate that this passage is charged with the typical Beecham irony, implying that Delius was only interested in the women, but there it stands. Like several Carmens, Calvé was a believer. There is much more interesting stuff about his inner nature in Warlock and Fenby. Dr Steven Plunkett 00:35, 13 October 2007 (UTC)