Talk:Frederick Banting
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[edit] Farm space
A HA is a Hectare. It's not in the article, just noticed that. Thanks for pointing that out. - Mike
(The article mentions that the farm under dispute is "100 acre (40 ha)". What is a 'ha'? A unit of measure? I didn't want to take it out, but felt that it should be questioned. --Mechcozmo 21:19, 13 June 2006 (UTC))
- 1 acre = 0.4047 poops (turd) Seminumerical 10:56, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Nicolae Paulescu
This article is about Banting, not the place to re-write scientific history.Stevenscollege 10:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
On further inspection of whats written in "Paulescu's discovery of insulin" and "Nobel Prize controversy" nothing was supported by an external reference, so its gone.Stevenscollege 10:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
We are not re-writing history, merely telling the truth. Banting did not discover insulin first, it was Nicolae Paulescu. In fact, there is quite a lot of evidence for this, far more than for Banting.
[edit] Nicolae Paulescu
That is just Canadian bullshit. People have the right to know the truth! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.138.195.202 (talk) 10:13, 4 May 2007 (UTC).
I'm serious. LEARN THE TRUTH. Frederick Banting does not deserve the Nobel Prize. Canadian bullshit!!! Salvadoradi (talk) 22:58, 21 February 2008 (UTC) YOURE RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!
- Where does one go to learn this "truth"? How about a couple of reliable references? By the way, the Nobel Prize is awarded by a Danish organization with input from international advisors. Silverchemist (talk) 06:52, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
The problem, if there is a problem, in my opinion, is the use of the word "discovered". Long before Banting or Paulescu did any research, it was already as good as accepted that the pancreas produces a hormone which is released into the bloodstream, an insufficiency or lack of which manifests itself as diabetes. It was one of those things where you already know that something exists and what it does, but you are trying to isolate it in a usable form. The notion that Banting set out to ascertain the cause of diabetes and ended up discovering insulin is wrong. He didn't - neither did Paulescu. A number of people had tried for years to capture the pure hormone from a pancreatic extract - and it is anyone's guess as to how pure their samples were or whether their methods would have led to usable supplies of insulin in large quantities. That fact is that apart from Banting, none of the others pursued their work to a stage of commercial production of the pure hormone.
What Banting did was to devise a way of separating the two functions of the pancreas in order to facilitate the extraction of the hormone. Once that was achieved, they had something to work with, and from there it led rapidly to the purification and then manufacture on an industrial scale.
If you play around with words, you could make an argument to the effect that no-one actually discovered insulin. But the Nobel prize was awarded for "the discovery of insulin". That is a historic fact, and this is an encyclopaedia. It is not a forum for arguing that the prize was wrongly worded. 82.29.215.250 (talk) 23:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
I think the article should mention that the Nobel Prize was awarded in error or at least that there is a "controversy" concering this. This would make the article consistend with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Paulescu#Nobel_Prize_controversy -Paul- (talk) 10:16, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
