Talk:Freak scene

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in the fashion section its claimed that hair wasnt made too short because skinheads were thought to be neo-fascist at the time. However nazi skins did not arise untill the late 70's, after the freak scene had given way to punk

[edit] Phone Phreaks

They have no relevance to the article. I have removed it.

782 Naumova 11:53, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Well I disagree, so I put it back. The discussion is on how the term "freak" came to be commonplace usage in the 1970's; a different etymology may be claimed for "phone phreak", but it's still relevant.ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 13:33, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

The title of the article is "Freak Scene" and that scene is described well enough in the first paragraph that one can get a fairly good idea what various editors have been getting at. However, the phreaking scene is in most ways entirely unrelated to this scene. The former scene is related to a lifestyle, philosophy, music, art, etc., whereas the latter is devoted to understanding and exploring telephone switching networks. Phones vs. philosophy; there is no overlap. At the same time, I do see your point. The word "freak" was gaining popularity at this time, and thus its various usages might seem reasonable to include in the article. However, I'm worried that by listing, for example, "dope freak, speed freak, sci-fi freak, jazz freak, health food freak and Jesus freak, [and phone phreak]" the article may be getting somewhat off-focus. This article is _not_ about the word "freak." There is already a separate article freak about the word, and that may be a more appropriate place to discuss etymology. _This_ article is about _the_ so-called freak scene (and as such not about any others). 65.183.135.166 02:03, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alice Cooper is certainly no freak hes a redneck in it for the money money

I would like to suggest that Alice Cooper be removed from this list. He has declared that he is a right wing Bush supporter, and while he is certainly free to make this choice, this fact discounts his inclusion as a freak. This all indicates that Alice Cooper protrayed this freak image throughout the 70's and 80's purely for the money. --203.45.145.238 13:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Once again, we see what direction the exclusionism is coming from. So, you would even exclude people from the term "freak" -- as if you have determined that only certain people of a certain politics are entitled to be a "freak"...? I didn't think that's what it was all about, man! 70.105.27.234 16:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

It’s a matter of opinion dude. If you are talking about a freak scene in the true sense from which the word was originally created for in the 1960s and 70s then you are quite wrong, but if you want to generalise then why not add a new list of freaks such as Frankenstein and the likes. I heard Cooper on Australian TV gloating over and justifying the heinous crimes committed against civilians in Iraq. That’s not a freak in the true sense that the expression was originally created for, that’s a mindless psychopath. Get the drift?--203.45.145.238 10:41, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

the early alice cooper was a freak. some people shouldn't stop drinking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 21:17, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

That is an absolutely ridiculous statement. This is about freaks, not hippies. It talks about the connection to punks, who, while not right-wingers, were not liberal peace lovers like hippies. Alice Cooper is definitely a freak. He was going against the liberal attitudes that dominated sixties rock. I also wanted to say I deleted the part about anti-sexism, because there were no sources cited, and, with AC/DC on the list of artists, this does not seem particularly relevant to the freak scene as a whole. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gtbob12 (talk • contribs) 00:54, 25 March 2008 (UTC)