User talk:FrasierC

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[edit] Zeppelin

I've posted the same response on my talk page--thought you might see it first if I put it here:

I would be happy to discuss in detail any of my changes, and I assure you I can thoroughly defend all of them. I have said this repeatedly to the individuals who continue to revert my hard work, yet I get no response. If you check the backlog of this article's history, you will see that I have made literally thousands of changes to this article, and have written 90% of the material extant. When I first found it it was practically a stub--I came up with it's current structure and wrote the history practically from scratch. Hopefully this indicates that my intentions are only for the best. However, I find it incredibly rude when some rogue comes out of the depths of cyberspace and reverts dozens of my improvents under the banner of "cleanup". That's nonsense. Maybe you should tell them to discuss, for they're the ones who seem most unwilling. 71.76.223.251 18:21, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

Hey, thanks for getting some of the references in the Led Zeppelin article taken care of! It's definitely needed. Here's a little hint for working with references. You can re-use the same reference multiple times by defining it once, like so: <ref name="hammerofthegods">{{cite book ....}}</ref> ... and then to re-reference the same item again later in the article by using <ref name="hammerofthegods" />. The cool part about it is that if someone wants to improve the citation information further (adding ISBN, authors, etc.), then they only have to do it in one place. Hope this helps, happy editing! -/- Warren 20:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citations

Thankyou for your contributions to Led Zeppelin. Can I suggest you put something (even one keystroke) on your talk page. This will stop your user name appearing as a red link. These indicate empty or nonexisting pages. This is not an automated message, just some friendly advice. Regards, Edelmand 10:52, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

That's fine, thank you very much. --FrasierC 20:56, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Admin assistance may be required

Based on the disruptive edit history of Dume7/71.X I don't think you're going to get too many positive "community" contributions. The editor has shown that he feels himself "above" Wiki-policy. Normally, at this point, I would circumvent WP:ANI and go straight to an Admin directly and ask to have the page semi-protected. Unfortunately all of my Admin mates are not active so I cannot "back-door" a lock on the page. Once 'Wiki-alf' or 'Bubba Ho' or 'G_nol' or any of my admin acquaintances login I will ask for some help. Do you have any administrator allies that can lend assistance? The article is never going to be improved if it's being constantly bombed with POV pushing fanboys. I will support the work you and Iris and Edelmand are trying to attempt. But, until I can stir up an Admin toolbox, I am afraid it could be a long night. Good luck. 156.34.230.172 00:39, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I am afraid I have no real contacts on Wikipedia, so I cannot really do an awful lot about this either.

It's a real shame that there are people like this who just abuse the system, in that they edit but don't talk about there edits or allow discussion to be created if the edits are disputed.

We'll have to wait.

(I've left this on your talk page and mine).

A little "156.34" background for you. This IP range is a frequent contributor to Wikipedia as "We" are a team of 6 RC patrolling librarians working for our local University. We have all been 'logged' users in the past but we have found, as far as vandal patrolling goes, you don't need a name to rv vandalism....so we choose not to have one. Our long history of work has been recognised by the VandalProof community and I have been told at least 2 dozen 156.34 IPs have been whitelisted by that vandal hunting community...which is a nice token of trust. We have 1000 computers here in the library so, as we move about, our IPs tend to float a little. We have 2 editors focused on music; 2 on History and 2 on sports. We have made many friends in the community and will always try to "Push the Positive" wherever we can. But edit wars leave a bad taste and I wish to avoid them at all costs. Know that you can edit with the support of Wiki-policy always on your side. But be careful not to shade WP:3RR in keeping the page in order.(A wiki-crime that IP 71.X has broken many times over today) I would suggest you post "71" at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR. It's a bit tedious filling out a report. But the result will be a block (a short one) which will allow you some time to forge ahead with the cleanup the LZ article seriously needs. Almost time to head home. Good luck. Hopefully civility and community will prevail. 156.34.216.116 01:04, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Having administrator help is a good thing. I knew our persistent POV fanboy would be back so I hailed some help to try and stop the edit-war before it started again. And...I was awarded a barnstar for my efforts gloat - gloat - gloat. Try and round up the regular LZ editors... Edelmand, Iris, ???(whoever). Make a concentrated effort on the page. Keep ongoing "discussion" going as it adds to the concensus. In the end...Wikipedia wins. Good luck!!! 156.34.142.110 16:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I'll get all the good editors together and try to get a concerntrated effort together to get the page sorted. I think it's getting there slowly, but it does need more work, and perhaps a slight reorganisation.

Thanks again.

--FrasierC 17:35, 3 April 2007 (UTC)