Talk:Fratire

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What about the book published recently called "Men are Better Than Women" It is exactly fratire. Infact I think in the amazon review of the book there is a defacto definition of Fratire. It's also recieved great reviews on amazon. (added by a random reader - 02 May 08)


The main concerns of the people who deleted the last article was that it didn't not source any article written about the term. I'm a fan of the genre so I went through and found a whole bunch. If you check out the resources for chick lit and for lad lit I think that this far exceeds the burden that they have apparently met. One of the articles is a contracted Huffington Post piece that does nothing but discuss the genre and its evolution, another is from the New York Times and then the rest is rounded out by The Guardian and Time Magazine. The article I wrote is completely different than what was posted before and meets all the necessary standards. Is there something I need to add? TheRegicider (talk) 19:59, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps a merger to lad lit might resolve disputes. Pushing this term over that one might be seen as spamvertising instead of cultural education. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 20:10, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
My concern has been addressed. As a non-admin, I'm not able to look at deleted articles, but I put that tag there so that an admin could compare the two, to see if there was too much similarity there. Dreaded Walrus t c 20:15, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Understandable. But the current sourcing includes a notable and direct reference, so I feel that the speedy was not correct. You can still {{prod}} or {{afd}} the article if you like. It's not like I'm emotionally invested, here. ;-) - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 20:25, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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The problem with this article is clearly defining the genre. Tucker Max and Maddox are considered founder but both write over completely different subjects. Max is always going on about women and alcohol, etc. talking about his real life experiences. Maddox is purely anti-trend. He's sarcastic and only writes stuff that furthers anti-trend thoughts. Max is not anti-trend, though what he does may be looked down upon by many. There's a big difference there. The only real similarity I can see is they focus on masculinity to differeing degrees. It's hard to compare them. I mean, I happen to think Max is a total dick (even if he's interesting to read) whereas Maddox I consider somehwat of a hero/idol for his work against trends. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 22:17, 14 April 2008 (UTC)