Talk:Franjo Komarica
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[edit] MaGioZal
He is a Croat, the only difference is that he was born in Austria. He just lives in Bosnia. Let me quote him from an Interview:
- Hrvat sam i katolik, ne stidim se toga. To je moja košulja, moja pripadnost narodu. Ali imam i kaput. To su moji sugrađani, katolici i drugi narodi, a ne vidim nikakvu koliziju između košulje i kaputa. Na ovim prostorima prepleću se razne kulture, vjere, civilizacije, pa možemo i drugima pokazati kako se unatoč razlikama razumijemo kao ljudi.
- I am a Croat and a Catholic, I am not ashamed of that. That is my skirt, my belonging to a people. But I also have a coat. Those are my fellow-nationals, catholics and other peoples, and I see no colision between a skirt and a coat. On these regions different cultures, religions and civilizations are intermixed, so we can show others how despite our differences we understand ourselves as people --PaxEquilibrium 19:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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- Where is the reference of this statement? Anyway, once more the caso of the nationality of Franjo Komarica (or Nikola Telsa, or Ivo Andric, or Tito, or whatever) is just anoither chapter of the conflict between the “Western vision” of nationality that I follow (in which one is a national of a country if he or she was born and/or live in this country for a long period of time)and the “Balkan vision” of nationality that you seem to follow (in which one is a national of a country if he or she is affiliated to the most predominant religion of that country).--MaGioZal 11:33, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
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- And according to the article, Franjo was born not in Austria, but in Bosnia, where he currently lives (and reading from here and here, we see that Franjo is not hierarchically affiliated to the Croatian Catholic Church, but to the Bosnian Catholic Church).--MaGioZal 11:35, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
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- It doesn't matter what is the "Western vision" - if it's false, it should not be applied. And if the "Western vision" considered that all Europeans are ethnic Armenians, it should not (as per being false) be applied to Wikipedia.
- There is absolutely no conflict between anything here. No one claims that Franjo isn't Croat, and everyone claims he is. He was born as a Croat, and he is so now.
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- For sources, see Croat bishop tells his story, wants action - Banja Luka Bishop Franjo Komarica; includes related article on Komarica's pessimism about coming elections - Interview
- And (in Croatian language) Bishop Franjo Komarica is a Croat (details from his interview I quoted in here).
- Franjo Komarica said that the Catholic Church in Bosnia-Herzegovina is a Croat Church in BH. He wrote of the anti-Croat oppression he's suffering (together with other Croats) in Republika Srpska... anyway this discussion is getting pointless, if you're denying Komarica was a Croat, you could become a professional revisionist.
- If you really care about states, you should say Yugoslav, since he was born in Yugoslavia. ;))) --PaxEquilibrium 16:28, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
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