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Francis Pangilinan was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. Reviewed version: November 27, 2006

Contents 1 Failed GA 2 Some More Problems in Neutrality 3 Majority Floor Leader 4 Jelac

[edit] Failed GA

As I read this article, I was fairly pleased with its content. It had many interesting things to say about Pangilinan.

However, some phrases were far too clearly POV, see for example:

• "He remained an active organizer of multi-sectoral groups fighting for the return of decency, competence, and accountability to national leadership."
• "The program established him as an intelligent, articulate, working, and involved lawyer and a media personality"
• "It was during his college years at the University of the Philippines when his sense of nationalism deepened. "

These evaluations of his goals and his character are fairly straightforward pro-Pangilinan POV. Stay away from evaluations; present facts instead. It is, however, quite acceptable to show polls in which the public evaluates a person. For example, it is not good practice to say that Pangasinan is hard-working. If, however, a reputable newspaper conducted a popular poll in which xx% of Filipinos described him as hard-working, that is perfectly acceptable.

I am fairly certain that he must have some detractors, since every political candidate has opponents. While the positive statements about Pangilinan were mostly within tolerable limits, there was no mention of criticism whatsoever.

The truly fatal detail, however, is the lack of adequate sourcing. Only three references, all from biographical websites, is not nearly enough.

I strongly suggest that the editors of this article start finding newspaper articles to back up the facts presented herein. I also suggest that some of his opponents' views be show, to avoid POV concerns.

The ending section was skimpy and delved a bit farther into pro-Pangilinan POV than other sections. The list of his siblings in the beginning is trivial & could probably be deleted.

See WP:WIAGA --Ling.Nut 11:10, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Some More Problems in Neutrality

Phrases such as "He believes in active citizenship that is why...", "he saw the need to unite and develop...", and "committed to strong, principled leadership..." smack of self-marketing. Jekjek 15:35, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Well said. If you think this was NPOV at its worst, I suggest that you take a look at articles about Philippine actors/actresses, TV shows and movies...most of these are an editor's nightmare, compounded by ultra-rabid fans who are easily offended by good-natured efforts (I've had my fair share of name-calling and four-letter words :I ) to clean-up the article. --- Tito Pao 15:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Majority Floor Leader

Kiko was elected today.

--Florentino floro 05:12, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jelac

I added this, since this is the greatest moment in his career. Jelac is first in Philippine history. Judicial Executive Legislative Advisory and Consultative Council (JELAC) was the brainchild of Kiko Pangilinan, first proposed on the July 16-17, 2007 Manila Hotel Summit on Extrajudicial killings and forced disappearances in the Philippines.gmanews.tv/story, Gov't forms Jelac to boost tripartite relations --Florentino floro (talk) 11:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)