Talk:Francis Beaufort

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography. For more information, visit the project page.
Start This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale. [FAQ]
This article is supported by the Science and academia work group.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Irish Maritime.

WikiProject Irish Maritime is an attempt to expand, improve and standardise the content and structure of Maritime, seafaring and inland waterways articles associated with the island of Ireland. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this notice, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.



This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ireland, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to Ireland on Wikipedia. For more information, or to get involved, visit the project page.
Start This article has been rated as Start-Class on the Project's quality scale.
(If you rated the article please give a short summary at comments to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses.)
Mid This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the priority scale.

I became interest in Beaufort in 1941, as an Army Air Corp weather observer at Kelly Field, Tx, while plotting daily synoptic wx maps using the beaufort scale.jonhays 17:38, 18 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Beaufort as eponym

The following are named after Henry Somerset, 2nd Duke of Beaufort, Lord Proprietor of the Carolinas. If this is from Friendly's biography, it is worthless, except to suggest claims to be confirmed by real evidence.

Septentrionalis 16:20, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Irish/British

A Huguenot fleeing France to 1774 Ireland, who later went on to serve in the British Navy may not identify themselves with the future Republic of Ireland. What next Pontius Pilate is Scottish? Alibabs 21:06, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Facts! He was born in Ireland - the fleeing was done by his ancestors a few generations earlier. But as with anybody of that time, you cannot use modern national designations or even worse the one-drop-theory. From a dedectives point of view I'd say being part of the ruling (POV oppressing) class iE in the Admirality, not being Catholic he gives the appearence of a stranger in the land of his birth. But that is question that a) can spark considerable debate - b) is no longer really possible to identify. Note that the "British-POV" edit does not state him being British (althaugh that even would be correct as Ireland was part of Britain until last century) but says "British naval officer and hydrographer" which is 100% verifyable - He ended up being Rearadmiral in the British Navy.
Anyway what annoys me more is the fact that his "nationality" is the big issue here when the article is seriously lacking details that are readyly available elsewhere ... The article did not even mention his birthplace, got his father mixed up with some (great)-grandfather. What about his live in Wales as a kid? What about the de-tour the family too in fleeing France over Germany? Now a lot of this is of websites which may or may not have/are credible sources, but it would be a starting point in getting a bit more flesh on the article. Agathoclea 21:43, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Inventor" of the Beaufort scale?

I don't know if this is the right word to use abot Beaufort's relationship with this tool of measurement. Scott Huler (Defining the Wind: The Beaufort Scale, and How a 19th-Century Admiral Turned Defining the Wind: The Beaufort Scale, and How a 19th-Century Admiral Turned Science into Poetry. ) makes a very persuasive case that Beaufort did not create this scale, but he encouraged its use on the ships of the British Admiralty -- which led to his name being attached to one specific numeric scale. Case in point: this article succeeds in providing a useful sketch of the man without once mentioning the scale after the opening paragraph. -- llywrch 18:43, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation

"Biography" first paragraph mentions contact with Herschel. There are so many Herschels - please specify which one!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.168.238.107 (talkcontribs) 15:59, 8 March 2008

Thanks for pointing that out, I've disambiguated it to John Herschel who must be the right one. Good point! .. dave souza, talk 22:17, 8 March 2008 (UTC)