Talk:Framing (World Wide Web)

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how to use prototype.js file in frame supporting IE

I vaguely remember a controversy in the mid-1990s about the increasing use of frames in websites. Apparently many browsers couldn't support them and users disliked them. Bastie 13:32, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

The linked sites are MASSIVELY out of date, and are hardly relevent. Can we get some more up to date and relevant data? 81.137.159.61 11:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

""Some websites request not to be used in this way on other websites; some discourage it by including a framekiller script in its pages. The framing website runs a risk of being blamed for external content that, for example, is or becomes inaccurate or objectionable.""
These statements are quite irrelevant to the topic, namely, what frames are?
216.86.180.101 15:05, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

But they are relevant to 'framing' as a controversial practice - the page title is 'Framing' not 'Frames'. --195.137.93.171 (talk) 05:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm the anon (207.177.231.9) whose edit on frames was reverted, with the explanation that areas with seperate scrollbars and/or that did not require reloading and rerendering were possible using techniques such as AJAX. I've seen a great many examples of so-called frame replacements using CSS which have areas that do not scroll along with the window's scrollbar, but they are incapable of being scrolled at all, and must always be reloaded and rerendered alongside the rest of the window's contents. I have never seen a real replacement of frames (can be scrolled independantly, doesn't rerender or reload entire window when one area changes) in action and will not withdraw my edit unless a link to an example of such a thing is produced. 216.228.20.138 16:33, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

AJAX makes it possible to use JavaScript to rewrite sections of HTML without need full a full-page refresh, and CSS provides the ability to add or remove horizontal and vertical scrollbars to these rewritten section as needed. I am not going to go out of my way to actually create a web page with this behavior to satisfy you - a proper understanding of the various web standards involved should be sufficient. -- Scjessey 20:16, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History?

Can someone add a history section or something like that to this article? It would be nice to know, for example, when framesets were first introduced and by whom/in which browser. --The Wild Falcon 12:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

I added a History section, but my research did not turn up much information on it. Someone with more experience in this area needs to expand it. Skreyola (talk) 03:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Server Side Includes

I’ve been told that SSI is the proper solution as a replacement. Can somebody confirm this and add it to the replacements section? There’s also the :before and :after pseudoclasses in CSS, which one could (ab)use to insert stuff like a header and footer, I suppose. H. (talk) 18:08, 15 May 2008 (UTC)