Talk:Four dimensionalism
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I think this stub should be disambiguied. Fourdimensionalis is really a name for several other positions.
Sometimes "fourdimensionalism" is used as a synonym for eternalism, the view that the past, present and future exists.
Sometimes "fourdimensionalism" is used as a synonym for the combination of eternalism and perdurantism. Perdurantism is the view that objects persist through time by having different temporal parts.
Sometimes "fourdimensionalism" is used as a synonym only for perdurantism.
Sometimes "fourdimensionalism" is used as a synonym for the view that combines eternalism, perdurantism and the so called B-series of time. Se McTaggart-
Source: Sider, Ted, 2001, "Four-dimensionalism - An Ontology of Persistence and Time", Oxford: Clarendon Press.
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I could not find any other "philosophy" four dimensionalism articles so a philosophical disambig wouldn't apply. Instead, I placed this in the Four Dimension disambig. If "/RickardV" writes some of the above proposals, then a philosophical disambig could become necessary, but that would be (ahem) in the future. Naufana : talk 05:23, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
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This is a copy of material inappropriately placed on the article page that may be useful for people who wish to improve the article Anarchia 22:32, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
This description above isn't accurate. In the philosophy of time there are three questions. - 1. Do events have tensed values of time or tenseless? For example. Two days ago, yesterday's wheaterforecast had the value: future, yesterday it was present and today it is past. We call that tensed values, or according to John McTaggart: A-values. Julius Caesar lived after Alexander the great, but before George Washington and simultaneously with Cleopatra. We call that tenseness values or B-values of time. - 2. Does the past and future have an existing status, in other words are past and future equally real as the present? When the past and future is seen as equally existing we call that eternalism. If past is seen as no longer existing we call that presentism. A third view is the "growing universe theory" where just like eternalism the present is equally real as the past, but the future is yet to exist. The present is then the latest expansion, or growth of the universe. - 3. Do objects perdure or persist trough time? Perdurance of objects is the classical view. Where objects are three-dimensional and move trough time similarly as objects move trough space. In other word they relocate themself in the dimension of time. Persistance of objects trough time holds that objects are really four-dimensional. the three dimensional objects we perceive are just segments of a bigger four-dimensional object that lays spread out over the dimension of time. This view of persistance of objects trough time is also referred to by Theodore Sider as fourdimensionalism because it holds all objects have four dimensions. Although it does seem this view is best compatable with B-series of time and with eternalism that doesn't necessarily have to be so. Added to page by 84.198.255.169