Talk:Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts

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[edit] Dynasty Snatched From Young Derek William's Grasp

Not until recently the only inheritor and descendent of The Four Seasons Hotel Dynasty which rivaled Hilton's Hotel empire was young Derek Williams Sharp whose grandfather Isadore Sharp founded in 1960. On Derek's fifth birthday, the Hotel Dynasty with nearly 100 hotel resorts in over 32 countries around the world was unevenly purchased by an unlikely coalition between Bill Gates' Microsoft and Prince AI-Wallid bin Talal of Saudi Arabia for nearly 4 billion dollars. The privately owned Four Seasons Resort chain purchase was bitterly contested by Derek Williams when he reached 18 years of age; however, losing the legal battle and his testamentary contest which would have made him one of the wealthiest Hotel owners in America and possibly around the world. However, young Derek received nearly 1 billion dollars from the sale when he was barely nineteen years old. Now Derek has dedicated his young life to the modeling and fashion industry. Derek Williams Sharp resides in Boston, Massachusetts and attends the prestigious Boston University's astronomy program. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.148.150.4 (talk) 11:36, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Four Seasons Triad

It's a funny thing the hotel in New York city was designed by a Chinese guy yet the Four Seasons Hotel chains have an uncanny resemblence to the Four Seasons Triads by name. As you might not know, the Triads are Chinese organized crime groups. I'm for the Russian mafia though. :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.244.202.100 (talk) 14:27, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ownership vs. Management

The presentation may be misleading. Although some of the listed sites are owned by Four Seasons, most are only managed by them.

[edit] Photo is too large.

Photo is too large.--Gkklein 18:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Which one? Luke! 20:51, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Controversies

Changed wording to say Robin Paterson and Mike Pemberton are developing Resort in Grenada instead of Four Seasons as Four Seasons is a management company and not an ownership company.

This section needs references to have any chance of being NPOV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.215.11 (talk) 20:31, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Puffery"

Hi. I've been removing a section that User:Sharpd0526 has been adding. It begins, When founder, Chairman, and Chief Executive Officer Isadore Sharp founded Four Seasons Hotels, Inc. over 40 years ago, he had an idea that would become revolutionary in the hotel business: around the clock personalized service for business and world travelers... This feels to me like marketing or advertising material -- puffery -- rather than encyclopedic. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 02:41, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Four Seasons Hotels history

Sorry, my intention is not puffery. I think this article needs a history section, as many hotel chain articles such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam%27s_Mark seem to be made up entirely of the history section. I do see your point that it sounds too promotional, and I am going through it now to remove anything non-encyclopedic. Thanks! David M. Sharp 15:53, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Boost for FourSeasons? Celebs seen buying up the chain's Barbados villas.

Four Seasons' Barbados resort is getting much attention of International Celebs.

  • Lucian Grange, chairman of Universal Studios;
  • composer, Lord and Lady Webber;
  • Simon Cowell, of American Idol fame, are listed as owners of the properties which range from US$5 million to US$17 million.[1] - CaribDigita 14:50, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] COI Tag

Please see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Sophisticated paid editing scheme. Please do not remove the {{COI}} tag until you have thoroughly checked the article. Please leave a note at WP:COIN if you clean up the article. Thank you. - Jehochman Talk 04:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Could someone please explain just which editor has the conflict of interest? Corvus cornix 17:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, please, I'll echo that -- the link immediately above doesn't seem to lead to anything that has relevance to this specific situation. I removed a couple of speedy tags yesterday on Four Seasons articles that I didn't feel were appropriate because the articles had third-party citations demonstrating notability, but I left the COI tags in place because I did no editing. I'd like to know more about this "sophisticated paid editing scheme", though, to make me confident that I did the right thing. Accounting4Taste 19:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Since nobody has explained just who the COI editor is, I've removed the coi tag. Corvus cornix 23:01, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't the one who placed the COI tag, but in looking at the article history User:Brandonc.seo and User:Sharpd0526 leap out. See this thread especially for info on the latter. Raymond Arritt 23:10, 11 November 2007 (UTC)