User talk:Fornadan

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[edit] Welcome!

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[edit] Ethno-stub addition

Thanks a lot. I tried Culture-stub and got nowhere, and didn't have time to look for an appropriate stub tag, and promptly forgot to try to find one. TShilo12 06:17, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I hope you continue the expansion of the breton war of succession. muriel@pt 19:16, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I've been working on the Hundred Years' War for some time now. I'll continue to expand the breton article as I work myself forward in time. A problem is that the chronology already in the article doesn't fit too well with my own sources Fornadan 19:29, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Scottish Wars of Independence

Hi, I appreciate your interest and work on this article, but could you please research your edit more carefully. Scots or Scottish people are not called Scotch. They never call themselves Scotch, it is an old fashioned name, used mostly by English people and can be offensive to Scots. And Scotland was never 'ruled' by the English during the wars. These are subjects which are very serious to Scots and can cause argument, so should be carefully worded. Thanks for your interest and work, as the Hundred Years' War and the Second Wars of Independence were so connected. Reefyj 10:16, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't know that. The sources I had in hand used 'Scotch'. I thought it sounded a bit weird, but since I'm neither English nor Scottish, I trusted the author to get such things right. Fornadan 10:07, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Norwegian kings

I was following Wikipedia's convention of naming kings So-and-so XXX of Lalaland; see Category:Norwegian monarchs for what I mean. I am mainly trying to make the infobox at the bottom of the pages consistent. --Merovingian (t) (c) (w) 10:44, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Eirik I of Norway

Hi Fornadan - not sure why you reverted my stub-change on Eirik I of Norway - policy is to take biographies out of Category:Historical stubs, leaving that category for events (e.g., battles, treaties). I have removed the stub again. notice that your revert also changed at ð to <eth>, so I remedied that when I changed the stub template. Grutness|hello? 08:50, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I reverted because when you changed ð to < eth> it didn't show properly on by browser(but &e th; works). Didn't notice you had changed the stub categories also

[edit] Olaf II

I see you inserted the headlines I had originally made, but downgraded to bold because I thought the contents block in the middle of nowhere looked odd. That's fine with me. I guess some other main headlines should be added too, so that the block comes at the top?--eyolf 21:03, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)

I've added two more headlines now. The section about his reign could need some expansion and rewriting. Fornadan 21:28, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Years BC (1500 BC - 501 BC)

Following your request, I added the missing redirects (see Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:R_to_decade ). Good luck with your destiny BTW. -- User:Docu

[edit] List of state leaders

Hi. I'm concerned about your Lists of state leaders for years far BC. The dates of many of these reigns are only conjectural and not known with the level of specificity that these lists imply. Furthermore, some of the lists blatantly contradict the article on the ruler listed (List of state leaders in 1274 BC and Shalmaneser I, for instance). Perhaps we'd be better off without these lists. At best, they're probably fair game for deletion on the grounds of unverifiablilty. -- Seth Ilys

You have a good about about the inaccuracy varying chronologically; however, isn't that an argument for starting to create new lists where the old ones leave off, rather than creating a twenty-century gap in the listing? -- Seth Ilys 15:36, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Old Norse names

Hi!

What's your position on the Wikipedia naming of Norwegian historical characters from the Old Norse period? Should we use the Old Norse forms like "Þórir Hundr", anglicized forms like Thorer Hund or Norwegianized forms like Tore Hund? - Haukurth 16:32, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Personally I would prefer to have all names on Wikipedia given in their contemporary forms (huge chances for getting that through), the exception being bynames with a well established English translation. As for my own editing, I have usually used Norwegian forms mainly because that is what my sources use (I'm very much an amateur historian), so feel free to change them to Norse where that is appropiate.
The main problem with using Old Norse is perhaps the article titles. Special letters is probably best avoided here. Fornadan 18:43, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
Oh, and I hope what I've written on Sverre I of Norway isn't completly off the mark
Nice to see that article slowly being improved to being comprehensive. :) - Haukurth 23:23, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] COTW Project

You voted for High Middle Ages, this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article.

[edit] Images

Well, I have frankly forgotten the source of those images (I should have linked them to the source). It depends on when the artist died. Do you know?--Wiglaf 15:43, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

They are at least Fair use.--Wiglaf 17:29, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] babylon

you have a link to Kis in your subpage. Kis is a disambiguation page. I suspect you mean to link it to Kish (Sumer).

~~~~ 22:45, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template: Ancient Egypt

I need an idea of what's wrong so please entertain a few questions. What is it that your having problems with reading on the template. Is it just this template or do you have problems with other templates like Template:U.S. regions, Template:Texas, or MAL. What is it about your settings you think maybe causing the problem? I'll help if I can or forward someone I think can if I can't. Thanks. -JCarriker 15:53, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Vagn and Vagn Akesson

Thanks for the recommendation. It is better this way. --Briangotts (talk) 20:49, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Recreated pages

What is the proper procedure when a deleted page is recreated? (See Willosaurus & Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Willosaurus)

Fornadan (t) 15:26, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

  • Assuming the recreation is substantially identical to what was deleted (as opposed to, say, an article on a different person that happens to have the same name) - edit it to add {{deleteagain}} and an admin will get rid of it. Radiant_>|< 09:31, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Noise

OK, so I saw the note at Talk:Viking. Is all this noise because Normandy is coloured Old East Norse on the map? Have there ever been found any Norse texts/inscriptions in Normandy at all? Fornadan (t) 20:04, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't know of any texts, but there are many Scandinavian place names.--Wiglaf 20:28, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Normans#Norwegians.28A_Northmen.27s_fief_in_France_being_known_as_Normandy.29 and refrain from reverting the Ragnar Lodbrok article once again. "The old boar" prompted the presence of my ancestors in England at the side of "the little pigs". I do swear to know more than you on Ragnar's legacy. TheUnforgiven 21:08, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Norwegian

Bra jobb du gjør med norsk historie! Har du ikke lyst til å hjelpe til med å bygge ut den norske wikipedia også? --Tokle 21:13, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Córdoba

Dear Fornadan, you have a point! I'll disambiguate to Córdoba, Spain instead, since that was the seat of the Caliphs of Córdoba. The fact that they ruled over a much more extensive area than the city is what made me hesitant about linking to it before, but I wasn't really happy about what I did. -- Flauto Dolce 02:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bounty Board

Greetings. You've recently been involved with working on get articles up to featured status, so I wanted to let you know about a new page, Wikipedia:Bounty board. People have put up monetary bounties for certain articles reaching featured status - if the article makes it, the bounty lister donates the stated amount of money to the Wikimedia Foundation. So you can work on making articles featured, and donate other people's money at the same time. If this sounds interesting, I hope you stop by. – Quadell (talk) (bounties) 01:03, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Argentine heads of state

Years 1820 to 1826 where kinda unstable in Argentina (if you can say there was a stable year in Argentina at all). The first president was Rivadavia in 1826. The first Supreme Directors (1815 to 1820) where sort of Heads of States before internal comflicts and wars within the Provincias Unidas del Río de la Plata, mainly because of the descrapancies between Buenos Aires and the other provinces. Therefore, you can't say there was a head of state, because there was actually no unified state (even though many provinces had treatries between eachother).

As a matter of fact, even then, Rosas is considered the head of state during 1829~1832 and then 1935~1852, while he was actually only the Governor of Buenos Aires, later to become Supreme Chief of the Confederation, and for many just a Dictator.

For earlier years, even before the independence, you can fill the 1810~1814 period with the Primera Junta, Junta Grande and First Triumvirate (Argentina), and other Triumvirates (see es:Gobernantes de la Argentina)

Sorry I can't give you a good solution for the listing. Tell me if you need a hand with the Spanish. Mariano(t/c) 12:20, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi, I'm new at wiki and I`d like to help you with the argentine leaders. What makes it a complicated task is the complete lack of national organization until 1853. Before that, there's a period that shouldn't have anything listed (1829 - 1852) because Rosas was not the president or head of state in any way. He was the head of the state of Buenos Aires province. During those years, the argentine provinces ruled themselves as separate units and were divided in 2 sides (Federales and Unitarios) But Rosas considered himself head of national state because he ruled the main city and province, Buenos Aires. All the provinces wanted to be a part of Argentina but they couldn't agree on federal policies, so this period should be listed as "No Federal Goverment" --Furgonero 03:45, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal up for a vote

A new proposal on representation of Norse mythology names is now up for a vote. I'm letting you know because you commented on that page :) - Haukur Þorgeirsson 00:51, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] ¶6 redux

Hi. I've just noticed your answer to the question I posed at Talk:Line of succession to the Norwegian throne. Unfortunately, though, it didn't really answer my question. Can you help? Thanks. Doops | talk 08:03, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Region?

We need to review the terms used for various types of regions of Norway, esp. the current erroneous term "landscape", but also landsdel and tettsted. See for instance Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Norway#.22Landscape.22. -- Egil 16:10, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Orohippus

Hi. I think I am to blame for the info problems with these horse articles (a skeleton in the closet from my newby days). I'm making it a priority to redo them properly and cite the references. I'll be quite humbled next time I tell a newby to cite his sources. --DanielCD 15:38, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thomas Dagworth

According to the invaluable Rayment, Dagworth was summoned to Parliament November 13, 1347 and hence a baron by writ of summons, so properly the article should be at Thomas Dagworth, 1st Baron Dagworth. For most of his life, of course, he was "Sir Thomas Dagworth". Choess 23:03, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your administrative powers are needed

Could you swap around Eirik Håkonson and Eirik Håkonsson? There also seems to be a duplicate at Eric of Hlathir, not sure how to respond to that. Fornadan (t) 16:54, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I'm on it. Well spotted. Haukur 20:06, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, actually maybe we should discuss this a bit to find the best location for the article. I'm of two minds. In Old Norse he seems to be usually referred to simply as Eiríkr jarl or Eiríkr jarl Hákonarson but I can't find an instance of Eiríkr Hákonarson which seems slightly artificial. Using a modern Norwegian form of that seems more artificial still. I've used Eiríkr Hlaðajarl a few times but now that I search for it I can't find that anywhere else.
Maybe it would be nice for Hlaðir/Lade to figure in the title somewhere but it's not obvious which form to use. For places which still exist we tend to use modern forms but do Hlaðir still exist? Is there a town called Lade?
But if we were to use something like Eiríkr of Hlaðir we would run into trouble with the Hákons, since there were three of them. We could end up with Hákon I of Hlaðir, Hákon II of Hlaðir and Hákon III of Hlaðir which would be extremely artifical and eccentric. I'd prefer Hákon jarl Grjótgarðsson, Hákon jarl Sigurðarson and Hákon jarl Eiríksson or Hákon Grjótgarðsson, Hákon Sigurðarson and Hákon Eiríksson. I must admit that the lowercase "jarl" might look confusing to English speakers between the name and the patronym, Old Norse style.
Some rambling thoughts, let me know what you think. Haukur 20:39, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Kjetil r as admin on commons

Hi! The norwegians have put foreward an admin request on commons, commons:Template:Administrators/Requests and votes/Kjetil r. It would be nice to have your votes! — John Erling Blad (no) 21:39, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Petrolacosaurus

Are you sure that it was not the ancestor of Dimetrodon? Talk to Dinoguy to make sure if it was not. What was the actual ancestor of Dimetrodon? GBA 06:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sigvaldi

Well, it was an "erfi" for all three of them: "Kong Svein gjorde et svært gjestebud, han bad til seg alle høvdinger som var i riket, for han ville drikke arveøl etter Harald, faren. Like i forvegen var Strut-Harald i Skåne død, og Vesete på Bornholm, far til Bue Digre og Sigurd ; og så sendte kongen bud til jomsvikingene at Sigvalde jarl og Bue og brødrene deres skulle komme dit og drikke arveøl etter fedrene i dette gjestebudet som kongen gjorde." But point taken. Haukur 13:39, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User_talk:Barend#Early_Norwegian_struggles_for_supremacy

I asked Barend a question and I'd really appreciate your opinion as well. Haukur 22:53, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair-use images removed from your user page

Hello, Fornadan. I've removed some images from User:Fornadan/temp, as they are copyrighted, unlicensed images that are being used on Wikipedia under claims of fair use. Unfortunately, by Wikipedia policies, no fair-use images can be used on user pages; please see the ninth item of the Wikipedia fair-use policy and Wikipedia:Removal of fair use images. These images have not been deleted from any articles. If you have any questions, please let me know. —Bkell (talk) 15:58, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Still looking for troop maps for Sverre of Norway?

I was looking through the map requests and see that you were looking for troop maps. Investigating further, I see that Sverre of Norway now does have troop maps. Would you like them improved? If you still would like maps, are there any other resources I could use?

Or should I delete the request? Yr faithful servant, MapMaster 03:23, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oliver Ingham

Hi, you recently performed a major expansion of Oliver Ingham, which had been proposed for deletion. I suspect the source is http://www.oxforddnb.com/index/101014392/, but I cannot access the biography to confirm or disconfirm it. Could you please add the source(s) that you used to improve the article? Thank you, Black Falcon 22:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm using Jonathan Sumption's The Hundred Years War I: Trial by Battle, which doesn't tell about his pre-Gascony career. Fornadan (t) 23:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article in desperate need of aid

Re Hereditary Kingdom of Norway. Sorry for the slow response. I took a look at the article and despaired. Today I worked up the energy to improve some of it, but it is still in need of a complete rewrite, I think, to make it more coherent and focussed.--Barend 17:28, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FAR

Sverre of Norway has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Savidan 05:58, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Fornadan. The Sverre of Norway review has been up at FAR for quite a while. We leave things open if people are working but not indefinitely. If you intend to work soon, let us know on the review; if it's going to be another month, I think it should be removed. Cheers, Marskell 08:55, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Districts of Algiers

I've noticed that you've listed Bir Mourad Raïs District and Birtouta District with exactly the same population. This strikes me as unlikely, especially since they are number 4 and 5 on the list. Maybe you should double check your source in case you've made a typo? Fornadan (t) 17:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

My bad. Birtouta was wrong. Thanks for telling me :-) --ANONYMOUSPUSSY 18:32, 22 April 2008 (UTC)