Talk:Fortitude Valley, Queensland

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[edit] with its becoming the most rapidly growing suburb in Brisbane

This seems dubious, at best. While some people are moving to the valley, many are moving out to allow for developments of offices and retail areas. Compare with suburbs like Forest Lake, which didn't exist a decade ago and now hold thousands upon thousands of residents, and I think that the Valley is far from the fastest growing. - Kirkbroadhurst, 20:05, 23-6-05

Well, the Valley didn't have that many (non-transient) residents not so long ago. The thing is, it's now filled with high-density housing blocks, which means that there might have been quite a substantial population increase. But I don't know. I suppose there'd be a source somewhere. Slac speak up! 01:06, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
In some ways, yes. But on the other hand, for example, the entire James St precinct is now just stores, bars, markets etc. I personally know quite a few people who lived in houses around that area and moved due to demolition. Kirkbroadhurst 10:50, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
I just edited the page, and admittedly I still need to reference it, but I removed this claim - show me the stats, and prove me wrong! Try looking at the results from the last two censuses to see if you can support the claim. Sambo 12:00, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


Is it fair to mention something about China Town, or the ethnicity of the Valley area?

It would be if the Chinese have had a significant history and role in the city, just like the Chinese do in San Francisco. However, I'm sure that the anti-PC right-wingers on Wikipedia won’t find it pleasing though.

Whether the Chinese HAD a history in the Valley doesn't seem the point. I work in the Valley and it is certainly today the centre of the Chinese community, and has moved way beyond the kitchy touristy "Chinatown" idea of the 1980's. Often, as I walk through Brunswick St Mall and Duncan Street on my way to work I note that people of non-Asian appearance are often in the minority. I'll take some photos of Chinatown and put them in a gallery when I get my digital camera cranked up! MichaelGG 11 November 2006

"Whether the Chinese HAD a history in the Valley doesn't seem the point." On the contrary. When you say "doesn't seem the point", I'm not looking for appearances. When I mean history, someone effaced any mention of Chinatown in the paragraph and just limited it to one sentence. Someone just didn't want to put emphasis on the Chinese community.

[edit] largest non-CBD shopping precinct in Australia ????

The article makes the claim that the Valley was the largest non-CBD shopping precinct in Australia between the 1950s and 1960s. This is unsubstantiated POV at best. The Chapel Street, Commercial & High Street precinct around Prahran, Victoria and South Yarra, Victoria (1880-1950) with its several emporiums spanning around several city blocks would have easily dwarfed the Valley, as would Smith Street in Collingwood, Victoria and Chadstone Shopping Centre in 1962. Having lived in Brisbane I fail to see how the Valley could assume this title at any stage in its history with larger suburban centres operating in both Sydney and Melbourne. --Biatch 09:17, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Current Picture

Is the current picture at the top of this article's infobox really the best choice for this article? It shows a view down a minor Valley street, of a minor Valley landmark. Is this really representative of the focus of the area? Wouldn't a picture of Brunswick Street Mall, the image most commonly associated with the Valley, be more appropriate?

I agree. This article seems to have been edited by interest groups to put emphasis on both the church and the gay community. I don't think the picture is indicative of the area, and I don't think mention of the gay population in the introduction is appropriate. It would work in a demographic subsection, but certainly not in the introduction. 121.45.252.239 (talk) 07:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)