Talk:Ford Sierra

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The Sierra picture here has no source information, but is probably a Ford promotional image. If we're going to use it, someone should write a fair use rationale, but I don't see why we have to have a Ford picture up. Surely someone can go out and take a picture of a Sierra that can be GFDL'd and thus have no distribution issues. Anyone game? I'd do it, except for being on the wrong continent at this time ... —Morven 16:42, Jul 17, 2004 (UTC)

Moved the copyright information an anon user placed on the image to its description page. We don't put credits in the image caption here, as a rule. Were you the original uploader? —Morven 21:18, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Sapphire 2 Rust! 3 Cd factor 4 Pictures 5 South America 6 Prices

[edit] Sapphire

This looks like it should be in a banger race, hasn't anyone got a better pic? Gillean666 05:09, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

• As I'm assuming you're talking about the red one with the missing hubcap, I suggest remove it, we need pictures of cars that are in resonable photogenic condition, which that Sierra isn't.

I'm quite glad to see it's still there as I'm afraid that image epitomises the Sierra for me! I recall the unfortunate owner of a brown "classic" model nicknamed it "The Turd" owing to its shape and colour.

-- Chris (blather • contribs) 23:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I've put another picture of a Sapphire with more wheel trims on Commons, but I'm reluctant to put another of 'my' Sierra snaps on the article page (1) out of modesty and (2) because I think the red Sapphire already there is at a more interesting angle, regardless of the number of visible wheel trims, and (3) I have sufficient experience of having driven (and of being a passenger in) these things to find myself in sympathy with the comment entered above by Chris. Charles01 (talk) 16:24, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rust!

It's surprising to see an article on the Ford Sierra without mentioning its most obvious weakness; rust. The rust problem certainly gave the car a dowdy image which was bound to inhibit sales. Mechanically they were rather behind the times compared to contemporaries such as the Vauxhall Cavalier with its front wheel drive and more responsive engine. But how to say these things in an impartial non Point Of View way? I leave this to someone more closely connected with the vehicles. Colin99 20:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cd factor

The style section mentions a "class leading Cd of 0.34". But Audi released their Audi 100 for the same (1983) model year with a Cd of 0.3, so this statement is not strictly true. 194.206.39.97 16:39, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

In the UK and Germany the price differential and size differential was sufficient for the Audi 100 to be positioned against the larger Ford Granada. Although the Sierra was a smidgeon larger than the Audi 80 of that time, that is more a reflection of the fact that the Audi 80 was by then smaller than such obvious competitors as the VW Passat (which had recently grown). I do not think most people would have thought of the Sierra as inhabiting the same class as the Audi 100. One was a middle sized saloon, the other was a large saloon. Charles01 (talk) 16:24, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures

The pictures are presented rather haphazardly: what on earth is a 1993 Sapphire doing next to the text about the 1981 Probe III and the 1983 model??? The article should really should contain one good clear image of the 1983 model (preferably near the top of the page) so that people can appreciate the revolutionary design. 194.206.39.97 16:39, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] South America

In Venezuela the Sierra were all 2.8 and latter 3.0. The 1.6 and 2.3 mentioned in the article were never sold there.

[edit] Prices

Does anyone have a clue what the prices were for various Sierra models?