Talk:Force (Star Wars)

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Contents 1 No more cruft 2 Expanded Universe 3 Too Much Fantasy 4 Light side and Dark side

[edit] No more cruft

I've just recently archived a lot of the previous conversations and I must say that I was very impressed with the level of intellgience I was seeing from the posts. Unfortunately, nobody was citing their material, and it turned into this Jabba-like blob of cruft. It has since been trimmed down, and its important that new info added be cited. Let me repeat that: don't add uncited information. If you cannot cite it, you cannot add it. The citationshave to be verifiable, reliable and noteworthy. Otherwise, you will have utterly wasted your time, as I or someone else will remove it as contrary to WP policy and guidelines. Please help to improve the article. It would be awesome to have some of those folks come back here and add cited material to expand the article. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 10:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Expanded Universe

Since Star Wars is composed of multiple media (films, novels, video games, newspaper comics, comic books), it might be helpful to distinguish the contributions of each of these media to the understanding, development and evolution of the Force. I am aware that canonicity is going to color these views, and we should probably note that outside of the films, nothing is canon (which certainly affects its notability). thoughts?

[edit] Too Much Fantasy

This article has so much "uncited" material in it that I've decided to comment out a whole paragraph. If my English was any good I would have rewritten the whole page! Facts only dear ladies and gentlemen. If you write something that wasn't explicitly shown in any of the six episodes then citate. As far as I am concerned this whole article should be deleted. 212.182.163.201 (talk) 23:49, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Light side and Dark side

The proposed text I have restored (1) accurately refers to the Light Side as an inference, as it is not mentioned in the films, and (2) accurately refers to "knowledge and defense" as the purposes for which the Jedi use the force, directly quoting Yoda in "The Empire Strikes Back".
Like it or not, the "Light Side" is never mentioned in the films and this fact is relevant to the article. Its existence has been inferred, and it has come to be associated with the "good side" that was described by Luke in "Return of the Jedi", and with the restrained usage of the Force allowed by the Jedi code.
I have never heard of the Jedi "swearing fealty to the light side". I'd be curious to see your source on that. Nizamarain 21:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

You need to cite anything you add, sir. You apply how the force is used without reference. Crazy stuff includes the stuff not specifically cited. That cannot remain. However, I am willing to wait and allow you to explain your edits more specifically. If you cite it, we might be able to include it. Uncited stuff will be swept away with all the chaff. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 06:54, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Arcayne, please see my comment on my talk page, and let me know if the top part of the "depiction" section currently looks good to you. I can then move on to the rest of the article to try to improve it along the same lines. Also, I think some consideration should be given to combining the Dark side of the force with this. Nizamarain 04:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)