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[edit] Hello

Uh...Hi there, i'm not a wikipedia user. I'm just a kid trying to know some music terms that are new for me. Like for example I wanted to know what a band's B sides are-or what they mean? And also what is an EP?59.183.167.133 15:05, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Well hello. First you should know what's a single; a song released by a band to increase sales or recognisation, these often are the songs that people like the most from an album, compilation of songs. Some bands like The Beatles however often didn't include their singles on their albums which then were released only on two-faced vinyl records, as well as the singles (often on smaller discs: 12" for albums, 7" for singles as the disc would have a minor length). Many single discs were packaged as one-track discs but other had even more songs than the single itself so they would be called EPs (for extended play). The single song was recorded on the A-side of the disc, and the other song on the B-side, therefore the name. You can see examples on Beatles "She Loves You" (single) and its b-side "I'll Get You".
Nowadays, b-sides are still an option or a tradition that many bands still follow so they release a single with one, two or even three b-sides (look at Muse's "Cave" or Keane's "Somewhere Only We Know"). As many of this songs are rarely known (50,000 copies by single and up to millions on albums) they are considered rarities and may be sometimes difficult to find; these often aren't released on albums. Also, the term EP is now despected to a five or six track CD such as Coldplay's The Blue Room EP or Keane's Live Recordings 2004, like a proto-album. However, EP and CD Single are often synonyms. Hope that solves your doubts and if you have any other come and ask me.--Fluence 00:14, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey thanks! And one more... A CD single is an LP to be heard on the gramophone?

Well the gramophone record is equal to vinyl so a CD isn't technicaly a gramophone. An LP or long play is equal to album. You can call "EP" a CD Single or "LP" an album but not LP a CD single. Remember a CD single is a short record. When a CD has more than 5 tracks it's a bit odd to call it CD Single (single for "one"). You can see that on "singles" like Muse's "Muscle Museum" 3-track CD Single and Muscle Museum EP 5-track CD which both were intended to promote the song "Muscle Museum":)--Fluence 01:25, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you so much. You are the greatest!

[edit] Okay

Thanks for the description...i'll see if I can do anything about it. But I will certainly try! And I guess THE MEKON wants to get married to you. Well that is gross, no doubt about it. I don't basically encourage my friends to get married to cunts you know! And he/she needs to be told that we're not here to fear anyone, we're here to do our job of ignoring idiots.Victoria Eleanor 13:09, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey!

Well i'm still confused about the entire userbox thing. So I was just wondering whether you could make the userbox for me. I'm not forcing you so you can say no if you like...I won't feel bad at all:) Sorry if i'd be causing you trouble!Victoria Eleanor 10:49, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Would you please check the Tom Chaplin page. It's literally gone and I dont know who's done it!Victoria Eleanor 14:58, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

It was done by User:Can't sleep, clown will eat me, an English Wikipedia administrator. The reason he provided was "re-stubbed due to WP:BLP concerns". If you take issue with what he has done, either mention it on the talk page of the article, or on his talk page. --Dreaded Walrus t c 15:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Fluence i'm confused!Victoria Eleanor 16:29, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Have you lost your mind!

C'mon Fluence, Keane is your favourite band. How can you change your mind like that? Oh I know, you're just tired of the vandalism and the Keane critism from shit like The Mekon. You seriously need a break. I'm not joking on this.Victoria Eleanor 05:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Okay

So now i've got the hang of it. The guy who happened to be Fluence is not you so now i'm not confused. I was pretty sure something was wrong because it's practically impossible for anyone to start hating their favourite band so suddenly just because for a few idiots. So I checked the history of my talk and then your IP address wasn't there. So obviously i realised it was the guy who called you a cunt previously. Yes it's the same guy.

And about the userbox, don't worry I got the hang of it and put them on my user page. Check them out!Victoria Eleanor 03:53, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] He's the one

The guy who's been terrorising us. You can see his contributions here-[1]Victoria Eleanor 14:51, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] No it's not

It's not a joke. So you're Fluence. June talked highly about you. She said you were the only friendly one on wikipedia. As for the message I left on her talk, please ignore it, I was really sentimental at that time. But she's not out of danger. She overdosed on her sleeping pills. I found her completely dazed and so took her to hospital. But the doctor's not very hopeful of her. That's why pray. I don't want to lose her, and i'm sure you don't want to either.Jade1984 16:28, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey!

Hey, how ya doin?? Victoria was telling me about you the other day. And can you e-mail Victoria or something and find out exactly what happened to her? I am really worried. Lets just pray for the best. Thanks. :-) Jayant,18 Years, India • contribs 20:04, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not a joke again, though wish it was

June died a few hours back. Please pay tribute to her by signing your name on her user page. I can't believe this is happening.Jade1984 04:13, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] See You Soon?

On User:Victoria_Eleanor#Message, you said "see you soon" . . . this doesn't mean what I think it does, does it??? Arundhati lejeune 10:46, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

What do you think? That she could be alive... Jade1984 11:03, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

That Fluence had plans on joining her. Just wanted to be sure. Arundhati lejeune 11:50, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] For you(Thank You)

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thank you for your support. Those song lines and that message would have definately made June happy. Thank you. Jade1984 11:03, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


And please, please, please don't lose hope. Don't harm yourself if that's what you're thinking. Remember June would never want to meet you in heaven... She would've always wanted you and others to live.Jade1984 06:05, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Stitch your wounds
  • Get yourself back together
  • Fight your way
  • Keep on fighting forever Jade1984 06:06, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Frustrating news

This will be very frustrating for you to learn, but it would be even more cruel to keep you ignorant.

Due to a number of factors, starting with your own question about whether her name was 'June' or 'Mary Ann', a checkuser was run on Victoria Eleanor and Jade1984. The two accounts were identified as belonging to the same person - who isn't even in England; it's someone in India.

Suspicion was also raised about Arundhati lejeune, but as far as we can tell, that's a separate person.

I'm really sorry. DS 02:21, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

It's not me . . . I wish someone could find out what's going on. Is there no in-print obituary printed in a newspaper that we can get hold of? Arundhati lejeune 13:11, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
All the reasons you gave on my talk page were why we-the-administrators were suspicious. Checkuser was performed, and it confirmed that the two accounts belonged to the same person. It also showed that the person was lying about being in England. DS 01:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Actually, it seems she "moved" to Australia, on 24 December 2006. But still. India, yeah. Interestingly, at one point her userpage did say she was able to contribute at a "near-native" level of Hindi, and at an "intermediate" level of Marathi.--Dreaded Walrus t c 01:15, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
What exactly is going on here??? Arundhati lejeune 02:46, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks everyone for trying to straighten this mess up. I felt pretty awful about this for a while. At least Victoria Eleanor, whoever she or he is, is probably still alive somewhere. Being played for a fool is better than someone dying, although I think this is clearly an abuse. I am assuming those accounts will be blocked from further editing? Thanks again. Arundhati lejeune 03:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, I think I left a message kind of concerned on your page about what "See you soon" might mean since Victoria's death had been announced . . . I didn't know you so I just wanted to make sure no one else did anything irreversible. June1984 did sound a good bit like VE at first to me . . . saying she had no friends and was lonely and all that (that reminded me of Victoria) but in the shock I wasn't paying much attention. Anyway thanks. Arundhati lejeune 03:17, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
If you have questions about whether this is a blockable offense or not, you may be interested in asking User:DragonflySixtyseven, as he is an admin, and probably knows a lot more about blocking policies than I do. It's a complex case. She hasn't really vandalised anything, and there haven't been any personal attacks. --Dreaded Walrus t c 03:26, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] --

I'm sorry. I was just hopelessly stupid then. Farewell Forever. And Sorry to everyone else. Really sorry. 59.183.185.37

Was told that this IP maps to New Delhi. Arundhati lejeune 23:24, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I'm back

And i'm very sorry about everything...please forgive me if you can. I'd be grateful if you could not ask me any questions about it all because I don't have the answers for your questions. Please...understand... Jade1984 14:57, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Um.. before we start another song, we just have a message to get across. It's Jade1984 and she wants to tell her friend who is supposedly our no. 1 fan in Mexico, Fluence, that she's sorry about everything and she hopes to reconcile all differences with him. Well Fluence, I hope you're listening! Jade1984
Um.. before we start another song, we just have a message to get across. It's Jade1984 and she wants to tell her friend who is supposedly our no. 1 fan in Mexico, Fluence, that she's sorry about everything and she hopes to reconcile all differences with him. Well Fluence, I hope you're listening! Jade1984

15:20, 2 July 2007 (UTC)]]


Oh gosh Thank You so much...you've just brought a smile on my face...and say is something wrong with my talk page? Because I got the new messages alert but when I checked my talk, there were no new messages...so I had to go to the history then check the last edit, and it was you :-)! And then I read your message. Jade1984 06:15, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Hit F5 or purge the cache. Arundhati lejeune 09:17, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

And i'm happy that you're now liking two of the most beautiful bands ever. Jade1984 06:16, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

And a suggestion...have you heard The Feeling? If you haven't then listen to their song called Rosé. Just go here and in that bar click on Rosé. The audio will start playing it. It's a really good song. Here are the lyrics. Their other song Sewn is also good, it's in the same bar on that site. Again the lyrics of the song is here

Jade1984 08:39, 3 July 2007 (UTC)


Zoé...really cool band. I'm listening to No Me Destruyas right now. Even though I can't understand anything they're pretty good. Thanks for the suggestion. Happy you're starting to like Arctic Monkeys. Fluorescent Adolescent is a good song. Now time for another suggestion :D --

  • Youth Group is an Australian band and it also has Patrick Matthews, who was the co-founder of The Vines and also former bassist{he left :-(}. I didn't bother listening to the other songs but, Forever young is must listen. It's actually a cover of the actual Alphaville Forever Young. Check it out
  • Mademoiselle K she's a frenck rock singer. So check out her song Ca Me Vexe out here
You'll definately like these bands :D Jade1984 04:44, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Keane Alert!
  • First of all I added new Tim pic. So check it out :D!
  • And secondly Keane's cover of Destiny Child's Bootylicious is over here. So enjoy! (Uh...it's called Dirrtylicious. It was sung on the Jo Whiley radio show in the UK)

And...Was Tom Chaplin really on drugs? Never heard about it. If so I hope he's OK now...

Jade1984 15:18, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the lyrics. Do check out the songs. Thanks for the Tom info. And...What about the Tim pic?

Jade1984 11:35, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey!

Care to join the Wikipedia:WikiProject The Vines :D ! Jade1984 16:14, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I know. No Vines for the Sydney Leg or anywhere for that matter! I'm not a big fan of Wolfmother. Keane is all that I'm acquainted with from all the probable bands performing. And it's definately not gonna help. I mean as soon as Madonna steps on to the stage, all the holes in the ozone layer are not gonna vanish! Nor will the temperatures improve. Tha damage is already done, the awareness is too late. The only awareness I get from this Live Earth thing is Be sure to vote for Al Gore in the 2008 Prez Elections!!! B-O-R-I-N-G!!!!!!!!! But i'd be a lot glad to know if The Vines themselves declined the offer of live earth :D! Jade1984 04:22, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

And this is the peer review for The Vines article. Just check it out. Maybe it'll help you in your edits. Jade1984 04:34, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] User Contributions

Fluence, I see that you have made numerous contributions to wikipedia, over 2000 actually but the worrying factor is that you seem to be above making edit summaries to your edits, please make sure that you add one in future. --GOD 10:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)