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Michale Hesp link deleted. The only references linking the name to Fluxus when searched on Google were Wikipedia and a Wikipedia mirror. If replaced, please include reference.Arevich 21:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Tookie Sherman link removed. He is an avant garde keyboard player for the group Need New Body, but I could not locate any references linking him to Fluxus. If replaced, please include reference. Arevich 02:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Genesis P-Orridge link removed. His work was Fluxus-like and he was contemporaneous to Fluxus, but I can find nothing that actually links him to Fluxus.Arevich (talk) 02:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Disambiguation needed for Eric Andersen link. Arevich 03:24, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

The article links to a wrong Eric Andersen.

An anon user replaced the word "pranksters" with "snigglers" - I've changed it back because "sniggler" is too obscure a word, and won't be understood by most readers. There also isn't much of a link between Fluxus and snigglers from what I understand of the term. Camembert

To discuss Fluxus as a basis for the evolving Mail Art Network please visit:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fluxus-mail-art/

Or to know more about mail-art visit: http://www.iuoma.org

related words: fluxus, mail art.

This page should be merged with FLUXUS. — Alex756

A display by Mason Gross School of the Arts at Rutgers University has me investigating said university's involvement in the Fluxus/ Happenings movement. It appears that Maciunas may have given Fluxus a name, but the artwork may have been going on as early as the late 1950s. Rickyrab 05:16, 8 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Are we sure about György Ligeti? Some of his work obviously bears comparison to Fluxus pieces, but I'm not sure he ever associated himself with them, and [1] suggests that he didn't ("You know the Fluxus group? I am not belonging there."). --Camembert

Well, I've taken him out for now pending some evidence that he associated himself with them, as the above link suggests he didn't. --Camembert
George Maciunas made name cards for him; Hendricks's Fluxus Codex includes the following entry for him: "It was announced in the Brochure Prospectus, version B that Györgi Ligeti would contribute 'Die Zunkuft der Music: Eine Kollektive Komposition' to FLUXUS NO. 3 GERMAN & SCANDINAVIAN YEARBOX. His score, 'Trois Bagatelles' was included in FLUXUS 1, and 'Poeme Symphonique' was published in Fluxus Newpaper No. 1." ("Fluxus Codex", pp.314) Certainly Ligeti might not have wanted to be part of Fluxus, but he was . . . dan visel 00:34, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

It's worth noting that the page Fluxus at Rutgers University is generally a much better introduction to Fluxus than this page. I'd suggest taking that page and using that as a template for this one (or at least linking to it). dan visel 00:34, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Reference to the musician Jeff Buckley removed. While Buckley was associated briefly with Fluxus his contribution to Fluxus was minimal and Fluxus was only a minor influence on his career.Arevich 20:43, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Reference to Fluxus Archive Klaus Groh, Edewecht, Germany removed. There are no references to this archive besides mirrors of the Wikipedia article on Fluxus. It appears to be a reference to a private collection, not accessible to the public or to scholarly inquiry. Arevich (talk) 02:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Is the word dissemble used correctly?

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[edit] Jonas Mekas

Should the Lithuanian poet and filmmaker Jonas Mekas be included in the list of Fluxus artists? --—Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.240.104.246 (talk • contribs)

It looks that way. Badagnani 22:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trimming artists list

  • Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to the artist/critic lists should be trimmed? Wickethewok 01:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
    • The lists would probably look a lot better if they were laid out as tables. Arevich 01:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Ray Johnson removed. While several Fluxus artists mention Johnson as an influence, there does not seem to be any evidence that Johnson was ever a Fluxus artist himself or that he ever exhibited with them or participated with them in any Fluxus events. Johnson was also known for his fierce streak of independance and was therefore unlikely to have ever considered himself a member of Fluxus. Arevich 19:02, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] willem de ridder

Willem de Ridder is an "official" Fluxusartist, who was invited by Maciunas to join them, after they met at a Fluxusconcert in Wuppertal, Germany. After Maciunas returned to the US, De Ridder became the official Fluxus spokesman of Europe and started a Fluxshop and Mailorderhouse in Amsterdam. He is also a close friend to Nam Yune Paik.

[edit] wim schippers

added Wim T. Schippers as being part of the Fluxus group of Maciunas during the sixties. he is noted in many fluxus documents, including the "Fluxus Reader" by Ken Friedman

[edit] Help with References

Added references to an article by Dick Higgins and a book by Owen Smith which support the four point summary. I need some help with formatting the references. Can anyone clean this up? Also, the 4th point about Fluxus being fun can be supported by reference/citation to Freidman's Forty years of Fluxus article. Is a citation necessary, or is the inclusion in the bibliography and external sites sufficient? Arevich 02:20, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Beck Hansen

Should Beck really be on the list? He's done some visual work, obviously inspired by his grandfather, but can he be considered a Fluxus artist proper? freshacconcispeaktome 17:11, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Beck co-wrote a book with his grandfather about Fluxus. The artists listed are all associated with Fluxus and are not necessarily only from the first wave of Fluxus. Beck should qualify on his own merits on both counts.Arevich (talk) 02:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How We Met

I added the item "How we met or a microdemystification" (which was removed by soemeone with a big list of medals) but I want to put it again on the list of selected bibliography because it is a specific contribution of Fluxus artists (AY-O, BEN, George Brecht, Robert Filliou, Dick Higgins, Joe Jones, George Maciunas, Takako Saito, Mieko Shiomi, Daniel Spoerri, Bob Watts, Emmett Williams): they tell us how they met - in reality or in "Fluxus". And it is published in 1977, that's why I have put it on the first place. The item is available at the Getty Library, at the German National Library, at the Bavarian Library etc.

  • How we met or a microdemystification [Ed. Silke Paull ; Hervé Würz], AQ 16, Saarbrücken-Dudweiler (Germany), in Engl. & German, 1977.

--E.stegentritt (talk) 18:50, 5 April 2008 (UTC)