Talk:Floyd Mayweather, Jr.

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[edit] Nickname

on his nickname list, underneath pretty boy it says "Money" May. It should be "Money" Mayweather. please change it. thanks

[edit] Age

Someone please change his age, hes not 81!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.1.30.8 (talk) 15:28, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Good Guy?

He provides meals for the poor [1] See also these minutes from the Grand Rapids Public School Board celebrating Pretty Boy Floyd's community involvement.[2]

thats right you feed the poor sexy man lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vampierslilvamp (talk • contribs) 13:12, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bad Guy?

He has several convictions for situations involving alleged violence.[3]

Should this not be mentioned along with the domestic violence acquittal, given that he was required to clear this charge in order to keep the fight? And he has two prior convictions for Domestic Violence prior to the reported acquittal according to this news report.[4]


I have declined to insert these items directly into the article as I am unsure of treatment of such items.

[edit] Timeline

Outdated: "De La Hoya has been quoted as saying his goal is 2 million buys, which, given the amount of time still remaining to promote the fight, is a definite possibility."

We cant decide based on opinion we need sources.The commentators say he's the best pound-for-pund boxer in the world and so does Oscar DeLahoyaSistersboy 12:04, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Superfight

The information below could be added to the Superfight portion of this entry -- it describes the success of the bout and discusses the number of pay-per-view buys garnered. If found the information at: http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=10922&more=1.

May 9, 2007 – NEW YORK -- HBO Sports reported today that 2.15 million pay-per-view buys and $120 million in pay-per-view revenue was generated from last Saturday’s mega fight showdown featuring Oscar De La Hoya and Floyd Mayweather at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. The fight was promoted by Golden Boy Promotions in association with MGM Grand Hotel & Casino.

In a fight that set the all-time pay-per-view record by eclipsing the previous mark by a sizable margin of 160,000 buys as well as establishing a new mark for revenue from a pay-per-view telecast, Mayweather scored a split decision victory and captured De La Hoya’s junior middleweight title. The showdown, which featured boxing’s two biggest attractions, produced 1,225,000 buys from cable systems and 925,000 buys from satellite homes throughout the 50 states.

--Brenan407

[edit] Removed clear NPOV violation

I removed the following sentence from the section on the De La Hoya fight:

However, due to the dull nature of the fight, (Floyd was incredibly defensive and lacked meaningful aggression)....

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There was even an attempt to provide a reference so one is forced to draw the conclusion that this is the editor's opinion and clearly violates both the letter and spirit of the NPOV policy.

At the very least, if the editor is a boxer or expert on boxing (Burt Sugar?), then this would count as original research, another no-no.

Also referring to the subject of the article by his first name is un-encyclopedic since Mayweather doesn't go by one name as some celebrities do (e.g. Raven).

The article also has numerous un-sourced quotes that clearly need to be fixed. I did not have time to search/list them all; only the ones in the aforementioned section.

I'm also adding the appropriate tag to the section.

PainMan 07:54, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stats?

Hatton fight reported as 10th rnd TKO not 9th

[edit] Hatton KO?

I says Mayweather won by KO but it was actually TKO, change it or unlock the page already —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.141.19.40 (talk) 10:43, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

it has been changed Sennen goroshi (talk) 14:46, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

good for you. nice description of the fight too. 1 line. nicely done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.46.10 (talk) 19:23, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

He did win by KO. ref stopped the fight when Hatton was knocked down and wasnt gonna get up. KO —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.2.50.9 (talk) 19:44, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

How could he know? The ref stopped the fight. TKO. Learn, jackass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.53.151.203 (talk) 20:31, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

the fight was stopped due to 3 knockdows in a round, there was no count, thus a TKO a KO only occurs when you fail to answer a 10 count. Skitzo (talk) 22:22, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

No it wasnt stopped on a 3 knock down - and I dont think that that rule was even in effect last night! It was a TKO because the RSF as he deemed the fighter was unable to continue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vintagekits (talk • contribs) 22:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

ah sorry, my mistake, either way it was still a TKO not a KO. Skitzo (talk) 22:57, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

You are making a habit of being wrong! ;) --Vintagekits (talk) 23:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

can you stop reformatting how i post, it's very annoying. Skitzo (talk) 23:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll tell you what is annoying and that is people not indenting their comments - when you reply to comment you are supposed to make an indent. Please format correctly and no one will have you reformat your posts.--Vintagekits (talk) 12:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

"I knew it was going to be tough," Mayweather said. "That's why I didn't do anything halfway. He was definitely the toughest competitor I've ever faced."

Associated Press http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jcyNIpIR8zr3Tt8fvFrvy9DDenbAD8TE03H00 I think that, when you have achieved what Hatton has, and given that this is all we know of Floyd's reaction to the fight at this point, it is perfectly reasonable to put this at the end of the article just before it mentions his 2 year retirement. Fair enough? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.254.81.209 (talk) 00:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

In sentence "however, replay video showed that Hatton's alleged punch didn't even land." The words "alleged" and "even" imply that the encyclopedia has an opinion about this being an unjust call. Changing it to "however, replay video showed that Hatton's punch didn't actually land" would be a better choice of words to ensure that the encyclopedia remains neutral and simply states fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.225.17.17 (talk) 16:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] penis anatomy

I was just looked up this page to see who won the match and someone hacked this article so some anatomy of a penis covers the screen! Will someone please find out who the hell did this, and ban him from editing PERMANENTLY! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.75.102.66 (talk) 16:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Floyd Joy Sinclair?

Someone in the article claimed that Floyd Mayweather was born Floyd Joy Sinclair? It this true? If it is, then a source online or anything should be applied so that it'll be confirmed. 202.69.177.61 (talk) 02:30, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

A source may have been added but it appears there that the name Sinclair was merely the surname of his mother before marriage. I can't say that this is acceptable. 122.3.106.142 (talk) 15:31, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
If you look at the timeline below the picture of floyd it says right there that he was born floyd joy sinclair. Rvk41 (talk) 02:38, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MMA

I heard Floyd might do MMA.. anyone know anything? —Preceding

yeah he was talking about it but i doubt he'll do it.


Can someone please update the MMA section, the style is too informal and one-sided —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bertje82 (talk • contribs) 16:03, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WWE

How can Mayweather 'lose' this fight it's not possible. The result is already known. Big Show cannot injure Mayweather either as then that injury would have to occur in reality. There will probably be some kind of interference from Rey Mysterio. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.51.181 (talk) 06:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)



On the 2/18/08 edition of Raw, Floyd accepted a challenge to fight Paul Wight, aka the Big Show, presumably at WrestleMania XXIV. Minizilla (talk) 03:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

unsigned comment added by 67.169.225.199 (talk) 02:43, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

It is in the article, but we can't put in that it is at Wrestlemania, because there is no guarantee of this, and that would be a violation on WP:CRYSTAL. LessThanClippers (talk) 20:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually we can't put it in the article either because that is we dont put week by week events. or in this case day by day. WP is an encyclopedia not a news site. We will add it once we have a set location of when it will be added, or after it happens.--TrUCo9311 00:06, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I would say it is already notable enough to say they had a stand off and agreed to a match, since its a special one time situation and not our usual type of match. We put that pac man jones had agreed to a match. It is already notable, its on non wrestling news sites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LessThanClippers (talk • contribs) 00:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Just give it time, or if you want to add it that bad add a small sentence. --TrUCo9311 00:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
All that was in there was that he had agreed to a match against the Big Show. Thats notable. LessThanClippers (talk) 00:28, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Well go ahead and write it, make sure you source it =)TrUCo9311 00:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
We don't know when the match will happen, just that a match will eventually happen. TJ Spyke 02:26, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • This bout will not be on his official boxing record, will it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.131.125.172 (talk) 04:23, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Good point but I think that he'd want it on his record fake or not it's no mean feat to defeat a 7 foot giant. The actual match type has not been specified but I presume it will be a boxing match. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.51.181 (talk) 06:53, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

why is he doing this anyway? is he trying to tell us that boxing is fixed? 86.138.167.124 (talk) 14:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

im a huge wrestling fan, but someone wrote on his page that is record is 40-0. However we all know that this does not count on his profesional boxing record. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hyrule Historian (talk • contribs) 20:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WM 24

the Match with the Big show Will be a MMA Fight it said it on raw the other day, So By Means Floyd Will Box During the Match and the Big show will wrestle.Big show lost Mayweather won the match.

[edit] Worthy of an article?

Sure, he's reknown. Sure, he might have defeated a couple of journeymen and paper champions. But does this waste of flesh truly deserves a Wikipedia article? I think not. And what I think stands. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.222.230.206 (talk) 04:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Mayweather is a credit to the sport of boxing. "

"Mayweather is a credit to the sport of boxing. "

What?

Biased garbage article tag please.

[edit] One of the greatest fighters of all time?

"Money Mayweather" is considered to be one of the greatest fighters of all time, amongst legends like Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard and Mike Tyson."

Considered by who? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.147.153 (talk) 09:47, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

It's peoples opinions, not a fact. –Cheers, LAX 12:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Of course he is the greatest of all time he is unbeaten in 39 fights and is a 6 time world champion AT FIVE DIFFERENT WEIGHTS —Preceding unsigned comment added by B1G KELLZ (talk • contribs) 18:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Its an opinion by people, and not a fact, but Big Kellz his accomplishments have nothing to do with it, and try to remain on task.--TrUCo-X 19:00, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Mayweather is clearly one of the greatest fighters of all time,an awesome record of 39-0, he has never been knocked down and not only is he one of the quickest boxers ever seen he is also unbelievably hard to land a punch on and lets his opponents throw as many punches as they like without getting hurt and then delivers a flurry of lightning quick punches, just ask ricky hatton.In my opinion even if he fights hatton and de la hoya again he will wipe the floor with them as he has too much class for hatton and he will knock de la hoya out, also, miguel cotto would get destroyed if he thouht he could match the pretty boy. When he finally retires for real he will retire an unbeaten champion like only Rocky Marciano has done before him,and possibly Joe Calzaghe, so he is clearly one of, if not the best pound for pound boxer of all time.Just ask the likes of Ali, Leonard, Tyson they will tell you how good the guy is.

yo this hassan miller from orange,n.j im trying to be the next best boxer after wayweather. someone please contact me at 419-991-9165 or 419-979-8594 a.s.a.p

That statement needs to be changed. it is the opinion of the person who posted it. It isnt even univerally accepted that FMJ is the greatest of this generation. Last year, ESPN named the top 50 boxers of alltime, and Hopkins, Oscar and Roy Jones all were ahead of FMJ. He finished number 48. FLOYD and his fans say he is one of the best of all time, but that's not the consensus of the boxing community. Wesleymullins (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 22:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)