Talk:Florence, South Carolina

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Contents 1 My edits 2 Notable Citizens 3 Fair use rationale for Image:FlorenceRedWolves.gif 4 Fair use rationale for Image:FPF.gif 5 Healthcare

[edit] My edits

Graham87, I have explained why the crime statistics are relevant and have tried to edit the content of the section to satisfy your complaints. Why don't you explain why identifying a city as having a crime problem is an issue for you instead of continually removing the section? The section does not compare the city to others (your semi-valid initial point), other than a reference to that fact that the rate of some crimes is the highest. Florence has a crime problem and noting this via authoritative statistics seems worthwhile. I conceded your point regarding using Wiki articles as a metric for measuring someone of local importance (though I disagree). Perhaps you might concede that crime statistics for an area with a crime problem are relevant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.126.133.104 (talk) 22:25, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Yep, crime statistics are relevant though I think at the moment the article goes overboard in the stats it describes. Has anything been done about the crime problem in the last two years? That would be a lot more interesting and relevant. However I won't remove the section again. An example of a whole article about crime in a particular location that works as a stand-alone article is Crime in New York City. Graham87 01:28, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

(Moved from my talk page)

You're probably correct w.r.t. the notable folks, though I think a Wiki article is not a good measure for measuring someone of local importance. The crime statistics are very important to describing contemporary Florence. These statistics are readily easily verified on the FBI site and should remain. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.126.130.50 (talk) 01:41, 4 May 2007 (UTC).

My edits were aimed at cleaning up the article and making it more useful and accessible. However there have been some reverts so I will discuss them in more detail here - I thought the edit summaries were sufficient. Firstly, the crime section only cited one source: the index to the FBI report on Crime in the United States 2005. That page tells me absolutely nothing about crime in Florence, South Carolina. In Wikipedia sources should be cited directly - the above citation is like citing a medical journal with "published in 2005", without giving any hint of the name of the article cited. The links from the FBI page might tell me something, but this page tells me that the tables do not provide rankings by crime levels, and that "Any comparisons of crime among different locales should take into consideration numerous other factors besides the areas' crime statistics". That basically sums up my other objection to the section - it is too detailed and contains no context. Are there any particular reasons why Florence has the highest rate of violent crime in the United States? What are the authorities doing (if anything) to reduce crime levels? It should be possible to find reliable sources like reliable newspaper articles discussing this.

With my edit to the famous residents and natives section, I did not delete everyone who didn't have a Wikipedia article - I just deleted people who, according to Google searches, did not seem notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Feel free to put individual people back with good justifications, or create an account so you can create an article about them. I also improved the layout of the section so there was not too much linking, and disambiguated some links so they now point to the correct person. Graham87 09:45, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Also, that section does not take into account the effect of Hurricane Katrina on the crime rate of New Orleans, nd is 2 years out of date. Graham87 04:45, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notable Citizens

Considering that they've begun to attract a fair amount of attention, shouldn't the band Sequoyah Prep School be included somewhere in this article? I go to school in another part of the state, and I know several people who have not only heard of them, but they're fans. Just a suggestion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.211.92.241 (talk) 23:00, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:FlorenceRedWolves.gif

Image:FlorenceRedWolves.gif is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot 05:02, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:FPF.gif

Image:FPF.gif is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Healthcare

What is with all of the opinions of "billing systems rife with errors..." and "a cafeteria where you can hear doctors conversing about their patients." Let's keep this fair and rational people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.219.133.241 (talk) 19:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC)