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"Unusually most french flageolets with keys have register keys, to facilitate harmonics by eliminating the fundamental. This modification is now rarely found on fipple reed instruments."

I don't believe this is true. Out of the two fipple flutes commonly encountered in Western Classical music, one (the recorder) has a register key whilst the other (the penny whistle) does not.

???? Recorders with register keys are rare. I have a number of recorders, none of which has a register key. I am also unaware of any use of the penny whistle in Classical music. JamesBWatson (talk) 22:11, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

"These were also produced with alternative heads, large ones with flute heads, and small with fife heads."

I have only ever encountered English flageolets in one size which makes me question the flute/fife distinction. --Arcjgh 19:59, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dilli Kaval

Is there any justification for keeping the section on the "Dilli Kaval"? While it may be related to the flageolet, it does not seem to me that it is a flageolet. If this instrument is notable enough to deserve coverage (and I don't have enough knowledge to judge whether it is) then perhaps it should have its own page; if not, perhaps it should be deleted. JamesBWatson (talk) 22:11, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

The same issue arose with the Tin whistle article which describes the origins, evolution and use soley as a British instrument but which User:85.103.138.89 (talk) edited to depict it also as a Turkish instrument, the dilli ney. I invited User:85.103.138.89 (talk) to discuss creating a separate article for the dilli ney but got no response. I've now deleted the Turkish references. Suggest you do the same. -- Timberframe (talk) 16:33, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I would advocate moving both sections to its own page. The instrument seems notable, but I'm sure most of our concerns are that it is "hijacking" the page for the flageolet. --Qmwne235 00:13, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Succeeded by the pennywhistle?

I don't believe this is right. The flageolet was more or less an art instrument. The tinwhistle is a mass produced folk pipe. Six-holed folk pipes have been in existence far longer than the flageolet. I am aware that Generation markets their tinwhistles as flageolets, but this is more a generic use of the word, rather than the tinwhistle having evolved from the English flageolet. --Aaron Walden Image:Tsalagisigline.gif 14:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC) I agree. If nobody objects I propose to change this statement. JamesBWatson (talk) 22:11, 4 March 2008 (UTC)