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[edit] Page name

I'm going to move this to "Flag of the Republic of Vietnam" because that seems to be the standard form for the name of such pages, see e.g. Flag of the United Kingdom and Flag of the United States. Noel (talk) 12:28, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I agree that "of the Republic" is better than "of Republic", but I'd actually suggest moving it back to Flag of South Vietnam, where it was originally. Two main reasons:
  • The "most common name" rule — the state was/is better known as "South Vietnam" than "Republic of Vietnam"
  • Consistency — our page for the state is at South Vietnam, with Republic of Vietnam as a redirect. Either both should say "South Vietnam" or both should say "Republic of Vietnam".
Would anyone have any objections to putting it back where it was originally created? -- Vardion 16:25, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

This is being discussed at WP:RM. Noel (talk) 14:44, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Archived page move discussion

(from Wikipedia:Requested moves)

[edit] Flag of the Republic of Vietnam → Flag of South Vietnam

I've raised this move (back to the article's original location) on the talk page, and got no objections. The basic rationale is the "most common name rule" and conformity (South Vietnam is called such, not Republic of Vietnam, a redirect - surely, therefore, "X of ..." articles should reflect this? -- Vardion 03:55, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

  • Makes perfect sense to match the main article name. -- Netoholic @ 08:42, 2005 Jan 2 (UTC)
  • Neutral. For consistency, it makes sense. But it points IMO to the absurdity of preferring colloquial names for countries. There's a sense in which there hasn't been a "Flag of South Vietnam", because there hasn't been such a country - and the article name implies that "Flag of South Vietnam" was the official term. Rd232 09:54, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose. The flag was of the political entity known as the Republic of Vietnam, not the region more or less controlled by the RVN at various times in its 20-year history. ADH (t&m) 13:50, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)
  • Oppose, for consistency with Wikipedia naming conventions for other flags, e.g. Flag of the United Kingdom, which go by the formal name of the political entity, not the generic name of the locality it rules. Noel (talk) 14:46, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Decision: No consensus for page move gathered after 13 days on WP:RM. -- Netoholic @ 04:55, 2005 Jan 16 (UTC)

  • Oppose. The common name rule is a good one, but we don't have to follow it unthinkingly. In this case, common usage is based on the situation that existed during the war. But Vietnam is a country, not a war. Vietnamese think of their country as consisting of three regions, North, Central, and South. Thus South Vietnam is a region of Vietnam that existed before, during and after the war. This flag is not a regional flag. The three stripes represent the three regions of Vietnam. The flag represents the idea of a non-Communist Vietnam, or "Free Vietnam." To call it the flag of South Vietnam implies that the people who fly it are Southerners seeking independence. Besides the Republic of Vietnam, there were several other Southern governments in history and they used various flags.Kauffner (talk) 06:16, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] similar flag

catalan flag. can be confusing. it sshoud be pointed briefly as done in the italian flag toward irish and mexican clones. Paris By Night 20:50, 23 June 2007 (UTC)