Talk:Flag of the Republic of China

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Contents 1 older entries 2 Sporting Flags 3 Extra flags 4 Correct colours? 5 'Mandatory' Scout participation 6 Three flags with fish picture 7 Name of the flag 8 FA without inline citations?? 9 Added POV section tag 10 What about the green flag?

[edit] older entries

Sun Yet-sen died in 1925 hence he would not design the flag in 1928. It should be 1906.--Formulax 01:30 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I guess we'll be seeing the chinese government blocking wikipedia again.

I have to say though, its just a flag, Is it really something relevent enough to get listed as a featured artical? It seems like there is no corelation between relevence of a topic and the length of an artical

I hate to break it to you, but a pokemon (bulbasaur I think) was featured... that's right a pokemon... the cartoon character...Jackchen123 (talk) 09:21, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Given that it's a major political issue in one of the world's major political hotspots, it seems pretty relevant to me. We have long articles about other politically-important flags as well, such as the Confederate flag. --Delirium 07:00, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)

Indeed, and what exactally is meant by relevent? (sic) relevant to what? Any well written article with enough substance may be of interest and Wikipedia is a broad enough church of knowledge to allow a diverse range of subjects to appear. If you feel there are aticles not yet worthy in their length in relation to their subject, the beauty of Wikipedia is that you can expand on it. Dainamo 11:08, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'm not saying there shouldn't be an artical on the flag, Im just thinking it would make more sence to put the aricatical about the republic of china on the front page. If someone is interested in the flag in praticular they can click the link to the artical about the flag from their. I Know that with an online encyclipedia you don't have to worry about saving paper. I was simply observing that obscure topics can be often have quite a lot writen on them. Anyway I wasn't trying to complain if it appeared as such. --64.160.183.8 01:33, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

You are welcome to share your view, but in my oppionion the point of a featured article is to say "Hey look at this well written and interesting write-up. Let's try to have more like this" and it is not important whether it is about the origins of the universe or the fluff you find in your belly button. Dainamo 11:00, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Sporting Flags

Hey yall, I just think we might need to reword the section of the Chinese Taipei Olympic flag, and also include the flag Chinese Taipei usses for FIFA events. Zscout370 01:57, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Removed:

Flying the flag of the ROC in mainland China is officially banned (although publication of the flag in a historical context is not forbidden), and, while flying the flag of the PRC in Taiwan is no longer officially banned, it would almost certainly bring a bad social reaction.

Both PRC and Taiwan press are publishing pictures of Lien Chan visiting the mainland with the ROC flag pretty visible in the background.

Roadrunner 13:52, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Extra flags

Hi all,

I was watching the West Wing and it looks like some of the flags are missing. I found them there: Taiwan_independence#Significance. I don't think I know enough about China and Taiwan to write it though.

Tony 02:15, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Correct colours?

The colours on the SVG flag are listed as such on vexillia-mundi.com. Is there a source which contradicts this? —Gabbe 13:24, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

the colors at vexilla-mundi.com dont look right. see the government: [1], and if you go to anywhere in Taiwan, you will see that the government website version is the correct one. i tried telling whoever made the image but was ignored.--Jiang 13:30, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 'Mandatory' Scout participation

The reason I placed the "citation needed" marker is because Scout associations _may_not_ be mandatory, else they will lose their World recognition. Several countries have lost their membership due to that. Apparently Gerakan Pramuka in Indonesia started off nationalist and mandatory, and absorbed an earlier Scout association. Chris 05:10, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Three flags with fish picture

The slogan on the picture says "Long live the Republic" and not "Long live the harmony of the five races under the Republic" (or whatever).

As in, the slogan doesn't seem to mention the five races. Can someone verify this?

Thanks --Sumple 11:16, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, whoever wrote that caption can't read Chinese obviously. 共和 means Union (usually of political nature) or Republic, there is no implication of "Union of races....". Best translation would just be "Union," as implied by the 3 different flags, that it was a union. Naus 21:43, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name of the flag

The flag's name is 青天白日滿地紅, that means GREEN sky white sun red earth, but why you people let the English translation be "BLUE sky white sun red earth"!!?? Another thing, since the square is BLUE, why is the name “青天”(Green sky)!?--Edmundkh 16:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

青 in the context of 青天 means "clear," not "green." 青 could coloqially mean lime green, but used in the context of the ROC flag, it bares a similar meaning with the "清" and "清朝". The English translation should therefore technically be "Clear Sky," and not "Blue Sky." But perhaps, "Blue Sky" could just be a convention.--Ruthless4Life 02:19, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

But what does it have to do with Qing Dinasty!?--Edmundkh 10:28, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm just saying 青 and 清 have similar meanings as "clear" and "pure".--Ruthless4Life 11:00, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Haha... actually I really wonder whether the flag designer was a colour blind who sees blue as green... :-P--Edmundkh 16:10, 9 December 2006 (UTC) Perhaps the original design was greenish blue or bluish green, then someone who thought it was blue kept thinking it was blue, then it eventually become dark blue! --Edmundkh 04:46, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Edmundkh, see Distinguishing blue from green in language. 青 in this context means "blue". Also consider the idiom 青出於藍, the story of which is that indigo dye (靛青) is produced from the true indigo plant (藍草 or 木藍). In that context, 藍 is greener than 青! So the use of 青 here to describe the deep blue of the flag is totally appropriate. Kelvinc 07:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FA without inline citations??

I am surprised this article is still featured. Criterion 1(c) calls for a references section "in which sources are set out, complemented by inline citations for quotations and for material that is challenged or likely to be challenged." nadav 14:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Added POV section tag

I've added the tag for the final paragraph in the introduction. It seems to me that this takes a pro-PRC stance by describing so-called important context that seems to be more of a delegitimization of the ROC government. Can anyone address my concerns, I am just a dilettante in PRC and ROC relations and claim no great authority on the matter. --BHC (talk) 09:15, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

That paragraph is obviously important. It is also poorly worded and possibly POV. Someone who does know this should take a crack at fixing it. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

[edit] What about the green flag?

There seems to be yet another flag in green: http://www.taiwandc.org/flags.htm what about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.128.39.136 (talk) 22:24, 15 March 2008 (UTC)