Talk:Flag of Singapore

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	Flag of Singapore was a nominee for good article, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones Date Process Result October 29, 2007 Good article nominee Not listed December 26, 2007 Good article nominee Not listed January 20, 2008 Good article nominee Not listed February 18, 2008 Peer review Reviewed March 14, 2008 Peer review Reviewed Current Status: Former good article nominee

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[edit] Gallery of flags

The "Gallery of flags" section in this article seems out of place, as this article is about the national flag. There should be some explanation of what they are doing in this article. Cheers, Jacklee 02:26, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Elements and symbolism

Actually this flag looks like a beautiful compromise to me. Overall it looks like the Indonesian flag, but with the Malaysian Islamic Crescent Moon and the Stars. Furthermore the stars also reminds me of the Chinese People's Republic flag. Meursault2004 (talk) 10:48, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

"The crescent moon originally served as a symbol of assurance to the Malays in 1959 —the year the flag was designed— that Singapore was not a Chinese state." Shouldn't there be some mention of this? 203.117.143.129 (talk) 03:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but only if a proper reference can be found for it. — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 00:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review: useful?

With respect, is there really any point filing another peer review? My experience so far is that editors just run the article through some automated process which generates unhelpful comments. — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 12:43, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Having a successful peer review, which receives plenty of useful feedback, entails considerable canvassing. For example, Homerun (film)'s ongoing peer review was filed less than six hours ago, but has already received two thorough reviews. I will contact relevant WikiProjects (and several of my IRC mates) to canvass for reviews. So should you. By the way, Jacklee, would you like to make Flag of Singapore the National Day main page FA? --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 13:35, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't have great enthusiasm for working much further on this article. Personally, I think the article is fine as it is, and disagree that any sections of it need revision. In my view, any further trimming of the article would be at the expense of losing relevant information. (I realize you disagree with me on this point, and you're of course entitled to do so.) In fact, what could be expanded upon is the use of other flags – perhaps that could be spun off into a separate article. — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 14:07, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I thought you would love to see your work featured on the Main Page, especially on National Day. If you are concerned about losing relevant information, consider moving most of it to Flag of Singapore usage guidelines (working title) and leaving a summary in Flag of Singapore. Readers who want detailed usage guidelines can read Flag of Singapore usage guidelines, while those who do not (the majority) will not be overwhelmed by the details. As a lawyer, you probably have no idea how scary legalese is to laypersons.

A couple of my IRC mates promised to review the article when they are free. In addition, I will try to rope in a copy-editor. Note that although I am capable of improving this article to GA status, getting it to FA status is probably beyond me.

--J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 15:15, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't think that the amount of information involved justifies creating a new article. There might be issues of notability of the information constituting an article in its own right. I feel the information is closely related to the content of the existing article and should stay there. Furthermore, it's not in legalese but in plain English. Also, as I'm trying to complete my PhD this year, it's unlikely that I'll have much time to contribute towards Wikipedia intensively, as compared to just dipping in here and there. All the best for trying to find a good reviewer! — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 15:37, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Compressing of the in general section is a must. Also, the gallery of other flags needs to be put into prose an a list of Singapore flags needs to be created. We cannot display all flags on this article, so we need to have this list. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 02:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)