User talk:Fizbin

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[edit] Welcome

Hi, Fizbin, and welcome to WikiProject San Francisco Bay Area! We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles relevant to the Bay Area. Here are some points that may be helpful: Our main aim is to help improve Bay Area-related articles, so if people ask for help with an article, please try your hardest to help them if you are able. Most important discussions take place on the project's main discussion page. It is highly recommended that you watchlist it. The project has several ongoing and developing activities, such as article quality assessment, which you are welcome to participate. Our system for improving lower-quality articles is Jumpaclass. If you'll be editing stub, start, or B-class articles, consider using Jumpaclass to track your progress. If you have another language besides English, please consider adding yourself to our translation section, to help us improve our foreign Bay Area topics. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We hope you enjoy working on this project.

Peter G Werner 20:49, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Oakland, California

Regarding the nickname problem in Oakland, California, Cholga continues to reintroduce the nickname without a reliable source. I reverted Cholga one time and explain to he/she in talk page. But it seems to me that he/she have trouble understanding what is notable or based on a reliable source. Cholga reverted every one of my edit, and would possibly engage in an edit war with me. Now I stop the revert and stop further conflict today. Hopefully I can get a second opinion from you to determine whether Cholga's citation is a good source or have you discuss with Cholga more about source. Sorry to disturb you. Thanks. Chris! _{my talk} 23:28, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] hey long time no talk

would you give your opinion here please? Hi there, would you be so kind as to provide an indepenant neutral opinion of the image Construccionkaiserrick.jpg at the section of the same name on the talk page of Richmond Medical Center here please? Thank you very much as this may help to alleviate a current debate over its inclusion.Cholga^talK! 01:07, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

funny, you do actually, just a little bit, but with a much more underlying friendly undertone which certain people i find it hard to believe may not infrequently achieve. as for it "adding nothing" explain please, i dont understand. ive heard people say it just illustrates a common construction scene but bart station pictures just illustrate a common subway station prototype, its not a picture of just any construction its a picture of the expansion of this hospital.Cholga^talK! 03:28, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: User Talk Pages for IP Address

Hi, yeah you are right sometimes. But as you can see on this user contribs, IPs don't change that often and we must at least take the chance in order to inform them before blocking. Because anyway the block is only effective against one IP so if they change there's not much we can do ;). -- lucasbfr ^talk 00:59, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] oakland

IL2BA now removed Oaktown, O-town, and The Town from the Oakland page, in fact he removed the entire parameter from the infobox, saying nicknames are irrelevant, it thought you might want to know and restore it.Cholga^talK! 00:42, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] s.p. resevoir

oh sorry about that, i was just trying to get it off the ground, if theres no useful mergable material it should be deleted or turned into a redirect.Cholga^talK! 20:22, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Outstanding picture - barnstar awarded

Wow!

For your daring-do to achieve a unique viewpoint I hereby award you the Photographer's barnstar. Leonard G. 00:21, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tilden as Amusement Park

By almost any definition of 'amusement park' I've ever heard, Tilden does not qualify. It is an outdoor nature park that happens to have one traditional amusement park ride - a merry go round - in it. That hardly qualifies it as an amusement park. If someone said to you 'hey, lets go to this amusement park I know of' and you said 'great idea, I love amusement parks more than anything else in the world' and you ended up at Tilden, you would be sorely disappointed.--Fizbin (talk) 18:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

There is a science museum to have fun in, a train to be ridden, a lake to swim in, a nature center to see.a merry go round to go around in. It fits my idea of a "amusement area in the BAy Area" though I hear what you are saying that it is not Marine World AfricaUSA or Great America. rkmlai (talk) 18:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Care to further discuss ? rkmlai (talk) 18:44, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

As I said above, calling it an amusement park is exceedingly deceptive advertising. Great America and the Santa Cruz Boardwalk are amusement parks - Tilden is not. By your definition 90% of the parks in the Bay Area are amusement parks. --Fizbin (talk) 19:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I dont believe that 90% of the parks in the Bay Area all include amusement park rides, museums, nature centers. Which parts of the Bay Area do you reside in or abouts ? They sound like fun areas. rkmlai (talk) 19:30, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Grew up next to and played/hiked/rode often in Tilden. Never once considered it an amusement park. Those, back in the day, were Playland at the Beach and the Santa Cruz Boardwalk.--Fizbin (talk) 19:58, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I grew up in Berkeley. Went swimming in Lake Anza, then took my kids to the Redwood Valley Railway and Tilden Park Merry-Go-Round, then later took my girlfriend's dog on walks around Lake Anza. These were the less expensive, local, environmental, amusement parks of my time. I still think Tilden should be listed as an place of "amusement" and "park" rkmlai (talk) 20:49, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hasay edit

Hey could you set Jordan Hasay's page back to the "bullet point" format it was before someone changed it? I feel it makes a much easier read. Thanks (I'm not sure how to do this). —Preceding unsigned comment added by B0bby flay (talk • contribs) 22:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Jordan Hasay

Hello there Fizbin, I closed the Afd as "keep" because, as an uninvolved admin, I found the arguments in favour of keeping the page more rational and convincing. A quick google search showed multiple credible sources, which made non-notability feeble grounds for deletion. Besides, the concerns about the page "reading like a resume" wasn't strong, as articles can be tagged for improvement, not outright deletion. In summary, national standard achievements (verified by good sources), in all likelihood, establishes notability. I considered this discussion a clear-cut case so I didn't provide a closing rationale (otherwise I'd have repeated all "keep" arguments ;))

As for my edits, I added some references to verify notability, for the dearth of outside references in the article could be misintepreted as evidence for non-notability of the subject by many users. (For future AfD reference, it should be noted that the addition of reliable sources, if they exist, is often the best reasoning for keeping an article) The aim of the reformation was essentially to make the page read more like a normal biography article with paragraphs than a list enumerating competitions and awards (please see some other articles and you'll see what I mean :)). I do realise that the article may not represent the materials as clearly as a list, but I dearly hope an editor who is more familiar with the topic than me would help with some rewriting in the future; that would be collaboration at its finest, and how wiki is supposed to work. :) Sorry for any confusion caused regarding the debate closure and my following edits. Best regards, --PeaceNT (talk) 11:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)