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Yes, please merge, as it refers to the same concept. I suppose a redirect would be in place here. rudy 11:02, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Are the 5 Dhyani buddhas related top the five lower chakras somehow?

If not, how are they (and the skandhas they represent) related to eachother?

Typically in Tibetan Buddhism, going by the colors, white Vairocana is on the crown of one's head, yellow Ratnasambhava is at the navel, red Amitabha is at the throat, blue Aksobhya is at the heart and Green Amoghasiddhi is in the "secret place". I am jumping around on purpose, this is the order they teach it. It has to do with the 4 Actions of the Buddhas-pacifying(white in this system), increase(yellow), conquering(red), terrifying (blue); and then various activities (green).

I don't understand what you mean by the 5 lower chakras-that might be a Hindu concept. Buddhist usually work with these 5 I just mentioned that are on both the upper and lower parts of the body.

The best way to answer your question about how the skandhas etc are related to each other is for you to meditate on the chart. Best wishes.

[edit] "Twilight Language"

I have removed references to the so-called "Twilight Language" that has been inserted here (and elsewhere; please see the discussion(s) on both the dab page's Talk: and the page for the book referred to) until an explanation can be given (here on this talk page) as to why it is relevant to _this particular_ article. -- Zero sharp (talk) 20:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Colors

Is there some explanation or teaching about the meaning of the colors connected with those five groups of Buddhas? Nothing mentioned about this in this article.

Austerlitz -- 88.72.8.68 (talk) 22:52, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

You might try reading the book The Five Wisdom Energies. - Owlmonkey (talk) 19:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. We will see. Austerlitz -- 88.75.78.199 (talk) 18:45, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

  • [1] Before I try this. Austerlitz -- 88.75.78.199 (talk) 18:45, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

One explanation is the connection with the particular element. There are different systems, and it is true that Vairocana and Aksobhya change places a lot.

The one I usually come across in Tibetan Buddhism goes like this: white represents water (which is clear or white like snow), on this page they said space however. Yellow represents earth, the dirt in India is yellow. Red represents fire, blue represents wind (here they said water somehow), and green represents space. I can't speak for all systems-Chinese, Japanese etc., but I am pretty sure in China as well as Tibet the wind element is always blue.

The order is from gross to subtle-earth being the grossest element and space the most subtle. I think a wonderful explanation is in the forward to The Tibetan Book of the Dead by Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. He goes into incredible detail of the colors, elements, associations. Each Dhyani Buddha is also associated with a different realm of sentient being. It is easy to read and not terribly long. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clodya (talk • contribs) 07:57, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Are you talking about the book The Tibetan Book of the Dead: The Great Liberation through Hearing in the Bardo, translated with commentary by Francesca Fremantle and Chögyam Trungpa (1975)? I'm interested in knowing to which realms of sentient beings the Dhyani Buddhas belong to - according to C.T.R., if possible without reading the book. Can you tell me?

Thank you for your information.

Thinking about the subject I became aware what I really wanted to know: does colour belong to form, that is, to dependent arising? When your skincolour is black in a world full of racism, is this because of karma? (Maybe my questions are not clear enough yet.) I've found another article in the internet, this one Color Symbolism In Buddhist Art .

Austerlitz -- 88.72.11.19 (talk) 21:58, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help! Accidentally Deleted Sanskrit Script Please Put Back!

I embarrassingly and accidentally deleted the Sanskrit script in the chart that has the different names of the Dhyani Buddhas while I was adding in the Tibetan!!! I don't have the script in my computer so I cannot add them back in. My deepest regret and sincerest apologies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clodya (talk • contribs) 08:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)