Talk:Fitna (film)

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[edit] Removed from Liveleak once again?

Anybody noticed that the original Liveleak videos are not available anymore? They are still listed on Wilders' profile, but if you click one of them, a message states: "This media item has been removed by the uploader". - Face 22:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Yep, he posted the links to the new videos here. StaticGull  Talk  11:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Take note of this too. StaticGull  Talk  13:55, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Eh... I was actually referring to those new videos. They are not on Liveleak anymore, and they have vanished from Wilders' profile now as well. I'm sure they were still there a few days ago. It's logical to assume that those legal actions are related. But I did a google search, and found nothing about this, and pvv.nl or geertwilders.nl do not mention it neither. Cheers, Face 18:22, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

That text on FOK, how old is that? - Face 18:22, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah, right. I only found the text on FOK yesterday. I think we should mention the removal of the videos from Liveleak in the article, and provide a mirror to the videos. StaticGull  Talk  11:50, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

So long as we provide a citation from a source that notes the removal/move to another location. It isn't our habit to engage in recentism. Let's wait for things to settle down a little bit. There is no hurry to be first with the news. If anything, such is contrary to our role as encyclopedia. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 16:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I think Arcayne is right, but I also agree with Gull that we should have a working link. It's difficult though to find a copy of the second version which is complete (not cut in half or something) and of good quality. Perhaps the second edition should be uploaded to Wikileaks as well? Anyway, I've added this copy of the English version to the article. I haven't found a qualitative Dutch mirror yet. I am also uncertain about adding the original edition. Cheers, Face 20:07, 6 May 2008 (UTC)