Talk:First Saudi State

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[edit] Flag

I'm very skeptical that this was their actual flag. Anyone agree? Slackerlawstudent 09:29, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

It was their actual flag , source: [1] Ammar 11:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm still skeptical, but until I find out for sure I guess there's no point talking about it. Thank you for the link. Slackerlawstudent 23:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
You welcome man :) Ammar 14:16, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Map

Also, the article says the Saudis and their allies "controlled neither cost", but the map shows both coastlines under their control. Slackerlawstudent 02:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

this is another map belong History on maps website which confirm the map on the article , maybe someone mixed between first and second saudi states , because we all know that Second Saudi State had no coastal cities :) , you can help by re-writing the incorrect statements on the articles Ammar 07:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes but this article is on the First Saudi State, not the Second (which, by the way, did rule the eastern coast including Bahrain, since you mention it). I will edit the article, but I just wanted to make sure there wasn't any dispute over whether the First Saudi State actually did rule the coasts or not.
you right , go ahead :) thanx for notice . Ammar 14:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kuwait

Slacker , Actully Kuwait wasn't a part of FSS. This was an important seaport for ottomans untill the british conquest.  A M M A R  21:04, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Well they did rule part of what is now Kuwait, but you're right, they couldn't take Kuwait city itself. I'll remove it but also remove Iraq because, all though they raided Karbala, they never actually ruled it or sent any amirs over there. --Slacker 03:51, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
No , in fact they did fight the iraqi pasha and succesfuly conquered some land . The iraqi pasha was the first responser to Ghalib afandi of hejaz . As a result of this failure to help they lost lands . This is a sources ; it says that saudis have reached the iraqi river of Euphrates. [2]  A M M A R  22:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Al-Sahel.org is not a reliable source, but even if it was, it doesn't show that the Saudis ruled any part of Iraq. See for example here [3], al-Moqatel's encyclopedia is very reiable, and most of the text is taken directly from published history books. It says: "و على الرغم من أن التحركات السعودية ضد العراق استمرت فترة طويلة، استغرقت حوالي ربع قرن (1788-1811م) فإن النفوذ السعودي لم يستطع أن يوطد قدمه في أي جزء من الأراضي العراقية ولم تستطع الدرعية أن تعين لها عمالاً في أي بلدة عراقية". So, they did raid Iraq and reach the Euphrates, but never actually held any territory or appointed any governors. Basically the same situationo as with Kuwait. -- Slacker (talk) 13:11, 26 December 2007 (UTC)