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Do the ticket restrictions apply to all First TOCs? Simply south 19:30, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

First city line is a part of first and it is big enough to have its own article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark999 (talk • contribs)

I disagree that it is big enough for its own article as there is not enough that is encyclopaedic that can be said about it. A list of bus routes is suitable for a travel guide (see Wikitravel) not an encyclopaedia. Thryduulf 21:57, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree because more info has been added and is being added to make it more relevent about what it provides.

Mark999 13:45, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

If First CityLine doesn't deserve an article on its own, the other subsidiary companies shouldn't have their own articles either. There must be consistency! Kev (talk) 10:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Am I missing the point here? Why should FirstGroup plc have an encyclopaedia article anyway?! Isn't this just shameless advertising and company history? I don't see why this company should have a page if Sabirock isn't allowed one! (Mawkish1983 09:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC))
I think it may merit an entry, but I think it should cover how often it is viewed as part of the transport problem, not the solution. for example, the First GWR fare strikes, its apology to customers and atrocious record, or its role in the Bristol Bath Railway Path Bus Rapid Transit scheme. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SteveLoughran (talk • contribs) 16:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Scottish Flag

Why? A London-based company has a Union Flag next to it, not a St George's Cross. Why does a Scottish company get a St Andrew's Cross next to it?

I suspect SNP spies ;) BriKaBraK 11:56, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

according to the information the first headquarters are in scotland - Derob ecnirp (talk) 20:02, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
erm, did you even read the question? BriKaBraK is not questioning the location of the HQ. Joe D (t) 20:07, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Indeed, it does seem a bit odd — First is quite definitely a national company, rather than just a Scottish one. David Arthur (talk) 02:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Operates in Ireland?

Can anyone provide a reference that the company operates in Ireland. I can't find anything on any of their websites to make this claim. --Bardcom (talk) 23:44, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Nor can I, for sure. The 'operates in' claim in the lede and infobox is presumably a summary of the various references in the text to FirstGroup owning Aircoach in Dublin; and if we can get a decent cite to that, then the lede and infobox claims would be carried on the back of that. So I've moved your fact tags to those more explicits claims.
But the big but is that I cannot find anything definative on FirstGroup ownership of Aircoach. There is a news article ([1]) on the Aircoach web site dating back to 2003 announcing that FirstGroup had injected 15million Euros, but there is no clue as to whether that gave them ownership or just a minority interest. Nor whats happened since. -- Chris j wood (talk) 10:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Re: Aircoach - I've dug up some references. --Bardcom (talk) 12:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Presumably if it turns out that First Group do operate in Ireland then we can restore the British Isles usage. This would be consistent with the North America usage, to describe that particular geographic area. CarterBar (talk) 20:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Excellent point CarterBar - thank you. I've changed to use country names - e.g. North America to USA and Canada. This is consistent with the Greyhound Lines article, etc. --Bardcom (talk) 21:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I don't know why, but I had a funny feeling that you might do that. Incidentally, have a look at First Group website main page - in big bold letters we have "North America", and they use that geographic term several times on their site. CarterBar (talk) 21:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
What do you think is best? --Bardcom (talk) 21:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
I'd favour North America in the first instance, if only to be consistent with the website. Later in the article clarification could be given about the operating areas of USA and Canada. CarterBar (talk) 21:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
To be honest, there's another big can of worms to be opened with the term "North America". (Who knows, it needs doing, and I'm near the end of B.I.) Does it operate in Mexico? --Bardcom (talk) 21:53, 20 May 2008 (UTC)