Talk:Firefox (film)

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Contents 1 cleanup 2 Interesting Notes 3 Removed section from Interesting notes 4 Tech specs for fictional aircraft 5 Tu-95 6 Internal weapons carriage 7 Fair use rationale for Image:Firefox.jpg

[edit] cleanup

This section needs some work:

Fans have stated that when Firefox lands and is refueled by the submarine, that it is a mistake that the American fuel nozzles will mate to the Firefox.

-This detail is false, Soviet Aircraft were designed with mostly universal fuel couplings in order to better facilitate operation from capture air bases in Europe. Not to mention that given all the work put into stealing Firefox it is highly unlikely the Americans would have overlooked such an important detail.

Gant mentions infrared detection beams coming from the Russian Cruiser, this is impossible.

-This detail is ture, infrared is an entierly passive means of tracking a target.

Gant should not have had to think in russian, the aircraft would not be able to tell the differance.

-This detail is false, people think in their native tounge. Firefox was designed to be flown by russians.

I agree I added those details when I should have been sleeping, I will correct them soon if someone else does not get there first.

Who says that people think in their native tongues? I find that an unreasonable statement (at least as a generalization). I do mostly not think in my native tongue.

Okay perhaps primary tongue would be more accurate.

[edit] Interesting Notes

"A third design adding rear canards behind the main wings is seen on the cover of the sequel novel "Firefox Down"."

I'm looking at several version of the "Firefox Down" book cover at: http://uk.geocities.com/hindgunship/firefoxdown.htm and none of them show 'canards behind the main wings' (which is a contradiction in terms, incidentally -- canards are by definition in front of the wing, and behind the wing would be a 'horizontal stabilizer'), though one does show small ventral fins. They all look similar to the film version of the plane, so I'm deleting this detail. 68.121.174.194 03:41, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed section from Interesting notes

There doesn't seem to be any point to the following entry:

Firefox contains appearances from actors from other notable films such as an The Empire Strikes Back, The Winds of War, and War and Remembrance.

Wow, really? Actors from one movie also show up in other films? Does the press know about this? RoyBatty42 09:40, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tech specs for fictional aircraft

This section seems less like an encyclopedic entry and more like the ramblings of fan-boys. Perhaps it should be rewritten in bullet-point fashion, like this:

• Speed: Mach 6
• Weapons system control: accessed by pilots thoughts
• Weapons: 4 50mm machine guns, 2 forward, one reverse firing missles.

Well, you get the idea RoyBatty42 09:40, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tu-95

I just saw the movie and i did not see any Tu-95 aircraft. Probably you mean the refueling aircraft for the second Firefox, but one could not tell exactly what type of aircraft that was (there is no aerial tanker version of the Tu-95)--Arado 22:48, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Internal weapons carriage

The movie shows the weapons are being carried externally, not internally, which would ruin the stealth features of the airframe.--Arado 22:53, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Firefox.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:03, 13 February 2008 (UTC)