Talk:Firedog
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[edit] External links
Looking at other Wiki pages that are essentially corporate I have removed a few of the many links on the page. There are still links left but this seems more in keeping with the norm. I do not feel that the telephone number is appropriate to Wiki but I'm sure other editors will have a view. --Nigel (Talk) 17:51, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
... Pretty much everything was sourced, but somebody removed all the sources, and now somebody put the article in the 'unsourced statements' category. Staus 03:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dress Code
I removed this from the article:
Unlike store associates in other departments, Firedog associates wear their shirts untucked and can wear cargo pants with external pockets.
I work as a Firedog, and we still have to tuck our shirts in and wear regular khaki pants. Maybe this isn't the case in all stores, but until someone can verify it I've removed it.
... The info for a store associate was posted in the 8/30/06-9/05/06 PAC entry titled "firedog - New Shirts". I won't quote the entry, but it should be easy to look it up. As for to non-employees. Well, there isn't anything about the cargo pants on the internet. However, the brand image on www.firedog.com clearly shows a firedog associate as wearing their shirt untucked (not with cargos, though)[1].If the brand image from Circuit City is that the shirts can be untucked, there is no reason that store associates should not conform to that image. So, the 'cargo pants' comes from the PAC mgr, & the 'untucked' comes from www.firedog.com advertising. Naturally, it could be up to the individual store director whether they want to let their own associates do this or not, pending an update to company SOP. Staus 12:57, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Criticisms
1) If Firedog wasnt launched until September 1, 2006, how is an issue from May of 2005 related to this service? This issue probobly belongs with Circuit City, not the Firedog page.
2) What source has criticized firedog for copying from the Geek Squad FAQ page? I don't think linking to the two pages seperately qualifies as "has been criticized." This entry looks more like original research. Staus 12:01, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Criticisms
I'd have to agree with both of those points mentioned. Issues arrising over a year before this brand was launched, and accusations without any sources at all should not have a place in wikipedia
- Removed per this discussion --
In May of 2005, a customer's data was transfered from her old PC to her new PC she purchased at Circuit City. During the transfer, her data was put on a display computer. The display computer was then sold and her personal information was still on the PC. [2] (The Denver Channel) Video [3]
- Staus 03:51, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Keep/Delete
I contested the speedy deletion. I feel this article can have alot to offer. It already pulls info from several good sources. I know the article needs cleanup, and had already requested that on the Cleanup page several days ago. What we need to help editing out the advert, not deletion. There's alot of good unbiased info in here. Staus 12:53, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
... Any information on what needs to be changed? bgold4 17:53, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I think that we should keep the page and make some badly need adjustments to the page conserning word usage. Some passages need to be deleted totally because they are advertisments such as:
In summer 2006, Circuit City added an unspecified number of telephone representatives and technicians in order to make services available around the clock, 365 days of the year. And it has lined up third-party installers and technicians in other markets in the United States.[2]
And the words in certain phrases need to be romived such as:"Firedog offers many services..." should be changed to "Firedog offers in-home and instore services...". Otherwise this page is now more advertisement then Geek Squads page or many other company pages for that matter (noted I am a firedog tech)
Removed advert verbiage - The green, black, and white logo, a dog jumping through a hoop, is meant to evoke the idea of Circuit City "doing whatever it takes to get the job right," said firedog spokesman Bill Cimino to the Dow Jones Newswire on August 25, 2006. "We chose the name firedog because it evokes the kind of qualities we intend our technicians and installers to provide: helpful, friendly, knowledgeable and reliable. When it comes to improving consumers' relationship with technology, we want firedog to be your 'best friend,'" added Philip J. Schoonover, chairman, president and chief executive officer of Circuit City Stores, Inc Is practically a sales pitch.
[edit] Associates
In the paragraph under this heading the phrase "In-Home Technicians, as well as Installers, are required to drive a Circuit City company vehicle." Should be removed as not all Firedog In-Home techs are issued a Scion. A noted example would be my store, the in-homes are done using the tech's personal car.
Is it the uninsured kind that they are totally unauthorized to use, but without any form of accountability from any level of management or organization, SOP, or otherwise rules or guidelines being enforced (which exist) to make that little known fact, completely innapropriate and cause of numerous lawsuits should that tech ever be in an accident where his policy would specifically be voided due to the fact that his vehicle is being used for business purposes, that kind of personal car?
... then it's not an actuall in-home tech doing the in-home installs? There's no way an actual "In-Home Tech" or "In-Home installer" would not have a car/van if that store is actually an in-home services store and the tech/installer is actually in that position. The circumstances of a store which chooses to do in-home installs without actually being an in-home services store with in-home techs/installers shouldn't really affect the article (except maybe criticisms). Staus 18:02, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Keep/Delete - part2
I am not a firedog tech.
I feel this article was not that bad (in terms in contents) and was not worth keeping in the list of clean up.
List of edits:
- Suppressed the "commercial contents label" at the top; an article which has for section "criticisms" cannot hardly be called an advert.
- Even more there was a story about the naming of the product which tells a lot about the company; you did not know who was to blame: the "unimaginative" associates or the "greedy" management. This made my day.
- Anyway it was suppressed as I reduced the introduction to "Give me the What, not the How"; this gives five piece of information; good enough.
List of comments
- As it stands now, this article is made of a good intro, followed by 5 sections in a minimal space (estimated to 2 Kbytes). Nothing to complain.
- All deleted info (if someone feels it) can be added back at the end of the article somewhere after criticisms under background, trivia, comments, insights, etc..
- Did not go into sections details.
Dilane 03:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] SPAM
This is a violation of spamming. This is NOT education.--Lynnarmstrong 22:36, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
We've already been through this and Admin/Mods agree that it has value. Staus 14:55, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Remember everyone, Staus is an officer of Circuit City, he will do everything possible to keep this entry as advertisement like as he can. Including removing sections with unbiased information news and information that would cast firedog in a negetive light.
[edit] move
can it at least be moved? the archaeological firedog certainly has more encyclopedic value. This can be at firedog (company). dab (𒁳) 16:36, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Why is there no valid entry for a real firedog, or firedogs (as they always come in pairs)? Try reviewing the web-pages from the URL below and perhaps someone can bring Wikipedia up tp speed. I'm afraid I can't, as I'm a bit of a dork when it comes to anything more sophisticated than making a cup of tea!
