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This is my first article so please bear with me as I work on it! The history page might get messy as I clean up after myself. I welcome any help - particularly from Farsi and Gujarati speakers, or others who know Zoroastrianism well enough to collaborate with me. Khirad 16:38, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, I'll leave this one to Wikimagic for now. I honestly could have added more, but wanted to stay way from really arcane terminology and information (plus which term should you use, the Pahlavi, the Gujarati, Modern Persian, Avestan, etc.??? *headache*). Zoroastrianism is arcane enough for 99.99% people. I'm far, far, far from satisfied with this, but I'm a perfectionist and would never really be satisfied with it anyhow! I do rue that I'm leaving it a little messy. There's more Zoroastrian related articles for me to write though. But knowing Zism I'll probably be back to fix this page up, add better links, a picture of a Sassasian coin (with the Fire Alters on the back), etc.; before anyone even reads this! On a last note, this article really needs to be moved to Fire Temple, as it is the most common English term outside of India and avoids the language issues already mentioned. Ushta! Khirad^talk 05:21, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "son of Ahura Mazda"

"I will worship thee, O Fire, son of Ahura Mazda, ..." -- Vishtasp Yasht "Then forward came Atar, the son of Ahura Mazda ..." -- Zamyad Yasht

But, according to the Ushtavad Gatha (45.4) and the Vendidad (Fargard 19.13), Spendārmad Amesha-Spenta is the daughter of Ahura Mazda. Spendārmad ==> Armaiti, Spenta of the firmament and the luminaries (including fire).

In either case, I don't think son/daughter is meant literally, but as "progeny of ...", or "creation of ..." (although Ameshaspentas are "facets of ..."), but then again what isn't? :)

-- Fullstop 14:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Baresman

what does "Baresman" mean? (82.131.84.5 19:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC))

A baresman (alt: Barsom, Bareshnum) is a bundle of twigs or wire held/touched by a priest during (parts of) a recitation of the Yasna liturgy. It has no apparent function (in the sense that nothing is actually done with it). There is some reason to believe that it may have once been a symbol of priesthood.

During earlier periods (Achaemenid, Sassanid) the Baresnum appears to have been quite long, about a meter or so in length (like this). In the present day its much shorter, about 20-30 cms long.

-- Fullstop 14:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Reminder to self - write an article on it. :)