Talk:Fire sprinkler

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[edit] Article name

In order to eliminate confusion with the "Fire Sprinkler" article, and to align the definitions of both articles with modern terminology (e.g., NFPA), the title of this article should be changed to "Fire Sprinkler", and the title of the "Fire Sprinkler" article should be changed to "Fire Sprinkler System". But as I am new, I don't know how to get this accomplished.Fireproeng 22:32, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

It looks like half of this has been done, as the "Fire Sprinkler" article title has been changed to "Fire Sprinkler System". Thanks to whoever did this. (I would like to know how to do this.) How can we get the name of this article changed to "Fire Sprinkler"? Thanks in advance for the help. Fireproeng 14:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Since "Fire Sprinkler" is a common term for the entire system, and article names are intented to make things easy for non-specialists to find, i suggest that

• This article be moved to Fire Sprinkler Head;
• The article on systems remain at Fire Sprinkler System.
• The name Fire Sprinkler be used for a disambiguation page that points to both of the other pages.

Is this acceptable? DES ^(talk) 19:19, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I like that idea. Being new to Wiki and seeing a need to make these Fire pages better, I don't know how to do all of that. If you can, that would be great. "Sprinkler Head" does get confused with "lawn sprinkler head." Bombero126 16:02, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

The term sprinkler head is not not used by industry standards, such as NFPA. The term fire sprinkler refers only to the one component, which is a part of a fire sprinkler system. So, we could make the fire sprinkler article a portion of the fire sprinkler system article, or rename the sprinkler head article to fire sprinkler - but using the term sprinkler head is improper. Fireproeng 17:56, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I am in favor of having two seperate articles. One for Fire Sprinklers and one for Fire Sprinkler Systems as a whole. While Sprinkler Head is improper, it is like saying "most remote area" when it is properly "most demanding." We should refer to things by their proper names, but we do slip out of habits caused by years of misspeaking.Bombero126 23:50, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Regardless of the precise names, I think there ought to be two pages with specific names, and one page at the more general name that serves as a disambiguation page. Note that industry standards are not the only relevant source of names. What would the casual, non-expert, reader call this?. In any case, I have the editing skills to construct a dab page and move to wherever, but the editors most interested in this topic should get consensus on what the names should be. I'll be glad to help in carrying out that consensus, whatever it might be. You could merge the two articles if you choose, of course. DES ^(talk) 15:03, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Lacking anyone else offering an opinion, I think Bombero126 and I have agreed to the names as stated above: One for Fire Sprinkler and one for Fire Sprinkler System.Fireproeng 19:00, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Move done as requested. DES ^(talk) 05:01, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Color Codes

The table of color codes listed is for New Zealand. Is this the same as in the US? (oops - forgot to sign my name!) --BennyD 18:49, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes it is. The color codes are the same for all manufacturers of bulbs so that there is no confusion. I have added the verbage from the latest edition of NFPA 13, the 2007 edition that also gives information about link style sprinklers and maximum celing temps.Bombero126 15:56, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] tagged for cleanup

I tagged this article for cleanup because there iappears to be some sort of stylesheet issue causing it to look all "piled up" (i.e. some elements rendering on top of other elements). My CSS-fu is not really all that great. --WhiteDragon 15:00, 25 May 2007 (UTC)